Marauder - [3.17] For Marauder - Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam Build - Forum

Spoiler " * NEW * Added Berserker and Juggernaut skill tree into skill tree section. " Short intro: I am the creator for the build: " For Slayer - Ngamahu Cyclone Build (Uber Lab Runner, End Game Viable) Chieftain Changes Patch 3.2 Spoiler 3.2 changes to Chieftain pretty much make it perfect fit for Ngamahu Flame so I decided to make a build for it utilizing Elemental Overload. Resolute Technique skill trees are included in the guide for league starter. " No obligation but if you want to show your appreciation, you can _____________________________________________________________________________ My Builds Slayer " Cyclone: Ngamahu Cyclone Build (Uber Lab Runner, End Game Viable) Scion " Cyclone: Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone (Uber Lab Runner, End Game Viable as Slayer & Raider) Blade Vortex: Dual Curse Crit. Based Blade Vortex as Elementalist + Assassin (SSF Viable) Cyclone: Bloody Explosion With Disfavour + Haemophilia Cyclone (Not a Vaal Pact Build) Cyclone + Blade Flurry + Frost Blades: Goddess Sword Spinning in Flurry Infernal Blow + Shield Charge + Cyclone: One Punch Girl With Rigwald's Curse + Facebreaker + Lycosidae Chieftain " Cyclone: Ngamahu Overloaded (Another Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone Build) Berserker " Vaal Double Strike: Raging Double Striker (Kitava's Feast) _____________________________________________________________________________ Screenshots Technically Deathless Shaper Run (1 Lag Death) Gears Used IMPORTANT: Please refer to gems section for most up-to-date gems setup. Gems shown with the gear below can be outdated as GGG update the game. Videos Showcasing Consecrated Path with Ngamahu's Flame: " https://youtu.be/VCueqRvsVpY Required Gears " Free Molten Burst that does impressive damage with huge AOE granting high clear speed. Requires 0 link. You just want to pop support gems into this weapon to buff Molten Burst. Preferred stats: " - at least 11% increased attack speed - 410 pDPS 6 sockets is mandatory! Recommended Gears " Pick between Tombfist or Belt of Deceiver for Intimidate damage buff. Personally I will pick Belt of Deceiver over Tombfist. " Rare Elder amulet: " 1. Extra fire damage (most important) 2. Life 3. Max total recovery per sec from life leech 4. Resistance 5. Accuracy (for EO or Crit) 6. Attack speed 7. Crit multiplier (for Crit) (least important) Rare Warlord amulet: " 1. Extra fire damage (most important) 2. Life 3. +1 physical gem 4. Resistance 5. Accuracy (for EO or Crit) 6. Reduced mana reservation for Anger 7. Crit multiplier (for Crit) (least important) " Provides very good damage boost to the build when you run Anger aura. If you are not able to obtain the above stats, prioritize "Gain #% physical damage as extra fire damage while affected by Anger" (DO NOT GET THE WRONG ONE. Very common mistake). " Provides attack speed, movement speed, dexterity and chaos resistance. " Astral Plate chest Preferred Warlord mod: 1. Socketed Attacks have -15 to Total Mana Cost (suffix) Preferred additional Hunter mod: 1. Attacks have +1.#% to critical strike chance (suffix) 2. You can apply an additional curse (prefix) Refer to Recommended Rares for crafting instructions. " Up to 50% increased Cyclone damage, 25% increased attack speed, 10% increased movement speed. You can run with 5L. Main drawback is the lack of defense stats. Bronn's Lithe provides great damage buff to the build. Thanks to @Lunartuna for testing it out. " Pseudo 6L chest. " Increased AOE, great clear speed, comes with all resist and decent life. Recommended Rares Gloves - Spiked Gloves with Warlord influence Preferred " - At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0) - Culling Strike (optional for Slayer, allows you to drop Bane of Legend and pick up Impact) - 20 to 30% melee physical damage - 20 to 30% increased projectile attack damage - Accuracy (only if you go EO or crit skill tree) - At least 10% Attack Speed - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped) - Intelligence (optional. if you need it to equip gears) Example: Belt - Stygian (preferred), Rustic or Vanguard Belt " - At least 75 life - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist - At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks - At least 300 armor (optional but highly recommended) Chest - Astral Plate Preferred (Crusader + Hunter influenced) " - Killed enemies explode, dealing 3% of their life as physical damage - Attacks have +1.#% to critical strike chance (optional but highly recommended for EO and crit) - You can apply an additional curse (optional but highly recommended) Example: Crafting Crusader + Hunter Chest - You need an ilvl 85 crusader and ilvl 84 hunter chest - Transmute + Alteration + Augmentation slam till you get preferred mod on the influenced chest - Use Awakener's orb on 1 of the chest to move the influence onto the other chest IMPORTANT: Chest must only have 1 affix from the influence. If you have 2 affixes that belong to the influence, Awakener's orb will randomly pick 1 of them and move it over to the target chest. Rings - Opal or Steel Rings Preferred (Hunter + Warlord influenced highly recommended) " At least 40 life (60+ preferred) Curse enemies with level 8 Flammbility on hit (Warlord influence) Curse enemies with level 8 Elemental Weakness on hit (Hunter influence) At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped) At least 20% Fire damage (optional, can be crafted using Essence of Anger) At least 20% Elemental Damage With Attacks (optional but highly recommended) Flat physical damage roll (optional but recommended) Crafting Hunter / Warlord Curse Rings You need an ilvl 80 hunter / ilvl 80 warlord ring Transmute + Alteration + Augmentation slam till you get curse on hit to show up on the ring Crafting level 22 Herald of Ash on the curse ring (Optional): You need an ilvl 68+ elder ring Transmute + Alteration + Augmentation slam till you get Grants Level 22 Herald of Ash Skill Use Awakener's orb on the elder ring to move Level 22 Herald of Ash onto the hunter/warlord ring IMPORTANT: To use Awakened Orb, ring must only have 1 affix from the influence. If you have 2 affixes that belong to the influence, Awakener's orb will randomly pick 1 of them and move it over to the target ring. Boots - Two-Toned Boots (armor + evasion), Warlord Influeced or Redeemer + Hunter influenced " - At least 75 life (can roll over 100 life in patch 3.0) - At least 30% Fire / Cold / Lightning Resist (or any number that can get resistance capped) - At least 25% movement - 8% extra fire damage (optional, Warlord) - Elusive + Tailwind (optional, Redeemer + Hunter, EO or crit skill tree) Sample Budget Gears Sample Endgame Gears Gems Setup Ngamahu's Flame (Do NOT require 6L) Spoiler " Combustion reduces monster fire resistance which will make Cyclone do more damage. Endgame Gems 4/5/6L Chest For: Cyclone Spoiler NOTE: Craft -3 mana on your rings and you will never run out of mana. 4R 1B 1G Spoiler You have higher chance to hit this color setup on Bronn when you use 3R on crafting bench. 4L " End Game Gem Replacement 5L " End Game Gem Replacement 6L " How do you get 4R1B1G on your chest? Spoiler You will color your chest with 3R. It has the highest chance to hit the color combo. You can also get Vorici to tier 3 in Research safehouse. Pray you get 2 or 3 white sockets at the right spots. If it fails, you have to re-attempt. E.g. 4/5/6L Chest For: Consecrated Path Spoiler " Ascendancy of choice for Consecrated Path: Ngamahu's Flame Advance + Tawhoa Forest's Strength + Valako Storm's Embrace + Ramako Sun's Light 4L " End Game Gem Replacement 5L " 6L " For Berserker, Replace Rage with 4/5/6L Chest For: Tectonic Slam Spoiler " Ascendancy of choice for Tectonic Slam: Ngamahu's Flame Advance + Tawhoa Forest's Strength + Valako Storm's Embrace + Ramako Sun's Light 4L " End Game Gem Replacement 5L " 6L " End Game Gem Replacement Helm / Gloves / Boots Spoiler " Unavailable For more survivability, you can replace Infernal Cry with: " Recommended Gem Level For: " Cast When Damage Taken: 1 Immortal Call: 3 Wave of Conviction: 7 " You can swap Flammability with Enfeeble (level 13) for leveling. If you have the recommended Watcher's Eye, you will run: Anger + Herald of Ash + Blood and Sand + Enlighten Flasks Setup - IMPORTANT General Mapping " Endgame Boss Setup - Resolute Technique " To use this setup for mapping, replace Lion's Roar with: Endgame Boss Setup - EO / Crit " To use this setup for mapping, replace Lion's Roar with: Abyssal Jewels - Patch 3.1+ Stats to look out for: " 25 to 50 flat life (prefix) Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix) +# to Accuracy Rating (suffix) #% increased Accuracy Rating if you haven't Killed Recently (suffix) Add 15 to 40 flat fire damage (suffix) Add 4 to 8 flat physical damage (suffix) 2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix) #% increased damage against abyssal monsters (suffix) Recommended (pick 2 prefixs and 2 suffixes): " 25 to 50 flat life (prefix) Add 7 to 12 flat physical damage to axe (prefix) 121+ to Accuracy Rating (suffix) #% increased Accuracy Rating if you haven't Killed Recently (suffix) 2% elemental resistance penetration if you have not kill recently (suffix) Jewels Setup Stats to look out for: Increased attack speed % Physical damage % Fire damage % Area damage % Increased projectile damage % Max life % Damage over time % (ignite skill tree only) Chance to ignite % (ignite skill tree only) Critical strike chance % Resistance (if you are missing) Intelligence (if you are missing) Samples: Leveling Skill Trees " 3 different skill trees. 2 of which are budget and league starter friendly. Re-specing from 1 set to another will cost between 10 to 30 regret orbs. " Skill Tree - Level 25: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 55: poeplanner.com Chieftain " Uber Lab Farmer - Resolute Technique (Cheaper To Gear, League Starter Friendly) " Skill Tree - Level 75: poeplanner.com Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Level 100 Skill Tree in Image Format Elemental Overload " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Level 100 Skill Tree in Image Format Critical Strike " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Level 100 Skill Tree in Image Format Berserker " Resolute Technique " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Elemental Overload " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Critical Strike " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Juggernaut " Resolute Technique " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Elemental Overload " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com Critical Strike " Skill Tree - Level 100: poeplanner.com POB Pastebin Following pastebin is based on gears (tailored for EO skill tree) from my SSF Standard Chieftain character. If you are playing in trading league, you will be able to acquire better gears and have better stats. NOTE: If you are unable to load the pastebin, ensure you are running the community fork version of POB. " https://pastebin.com/EgS5m2zn P.S. Go to bottom dropdown of POB and [Click to Select Tree] to change skill tree. Special Thanks To @AvengingTenshi for fixing the POB by including Chieftain's 70% extra fire damage every 10 seconds for 3 seconds and pointblank. Ascendancy Anoint Inexorable for chance to gain endurance charge when hit by enemy. Chieftain " Cyclone: " Ngamahu, Flame's Advance -> Tasalio, Cleansing Water -> Ramako, Sun's Light -> Valako Storm's Embrace Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam: " Ngamahu's Flame Advance -> Tawhoa Forest's Strength -> Valako Storm's Embrace -> Ramako Sun's Light Berserker " Crave the Slaughter -> War Bringer -> Rite of Ruin -> Aspect of Carnage Juggeraunt " Resolute Technique: " Unstoppable -> Unflinching -> Unrelenting -> Unbreakable Elemental Overload: " Unstoppable -> Unflinching -> Unrelenting -> Undeniable Pantheon System Soul of Solaris " 6% Physical Damage Reduction if there is only one nearby Enemy 20% chance to take 50% less Area Damage from Hits 8% reduced Elemental Damage taken if you haven't been Hit Recently Take no Extra Damage from Critical Strikes if you have taken a Critical Strike Recently 50% chance to avoid Ailments from Critical Strikes Soul of Arakaali (if you use Blood Rage) " 5% reduced Damage taken from Damage Over Time 10% chance to Avoid Lightning Damage when Hit 50% increased Recovery of Life and Energy Shield if you've stopped taking Damage Over Time Recently 30% reduced Effect of Shock on you 30% reduced Shock Duration on You +25% Chaos Resistance against Damage Over Time Soul of Ryslatha " Life Flasks gain 3 Charges every 3 seconds if you haven't used a Life Flask Recently 60% increased Life Recovery from Flasks used when on Low Life Lab Enchantments Priority listed is top (best) down (worse). Helm 15% increased Cyclone Attack Speed 40% increased Cyclone Damage Ancestral Protector Totem grants 18% increased Attack Speed while Active Blood Rage grants additional 12% increased attack speed Ancestral Warchief Totem grants 30% increased Melee Damage while Active 30% Increased Flammability Curse Effect 15% reduced Anger Mana Reservation 30% reduced Herald of Ash Mana Reservation Gloves Attack with Commandment of Fury on Hit Boots 120% increased Critical Strike Chance if you haven't Crit Recently (only for Elemental Overload skill tree) Damage Penetrates 10% of Enemy Elemental Resistances if you haven't Killed Recently 16% increased Attack and Cast Speed if you've Killed Recently 0.6% of Damage Leeched as Life and Mana if you've Killed Recently Adds 45 to 68 Fire Damage if you've Killed Recently Amulet Anointment Priority listed is top (best) down (worse): Tenacity Primeval Force Rampart Heart of Flame Magmatic Strikes Splitting Strikes Delirium Cluster Jewel The following is a list of useful notables from Delirium cluster jewels: Offensive + Defensive " Enduring Focus: Channelling Skills deal 25% increased Damage; 25% chance to gain an Endurance Charge each second while Channelling Battle-Hardened: 30% increased Evasion Rating and Armour; 35% increased Physical Damage Smoking Remains: 35% increased Fire Damage; 10% chance to create a Smoke Cloud on Kill Cremator: 30% increased Fire Damage, Ignited Enemies you hit are destroyed on Kill Special Reserve: 20% increased Damage during any Flask Effect; Regenerate 2% of Life per second during any Flask Effect Master of Fear: Enemies you Curse are Intimidated Offensive " Force Multiplier: 5% chance to deal Double Damage; 25% increased Physical Damage Master of Fire: Nearby Enemies have Fire Exposure Cooked Alive: 15% chance to Ignite; Enemies Ignited by you have -10% to Fire Resistance Devastator: 20% increased Attack Damage; 20% increased Damage with Ailments from Attack Skills; Enemies killed by your Attack Hits have a 15% chance to Explode, dealing a tenth of their maximum Life as Physical Damage Wish for Death: You have Culling Strike against Cursed Enemies; Curse Skills have 20% increased Skill Effect Duration Haunting Shout: 20% increased Warcry Cooldown Recovery Speed; Enemies Taunted by your Warcries are Intimidated (works well with Battle Cry) Defensive " Prismatic Carapace: 30% increased Armour; +1% to all maximum Elemental Resistances Dragon Hunter: 30% increased Armour; +20% to Fire Resistance; 5% additional Physical Damage Reduction Enduring Composure: 30% increased Armour; Gain an Endurance Charge every second if you've been Hit Recently Mender's Wellspring: 25% increased Life Recovery from Flasks; Life Flasks gain 1 Charge every 3 seconds; Remove Bleeding when you use a Life Flask Thread of Hope Thread of Hope allows you to pick up skill nodes without pathing to them. Following are possible choices for the build. " 1. Large ring Thread of Hope near Barbarism 2. Magmatic Strikes 3. Butchery 4. Steadfast 5. Versatility " 1. Very large ring Thread of Hope near Barbarism 2. Born to Fight + Heart of the Warrior + 2 x Life 3. Deep Breaths 4. Arsonist 5. Inexorable Bandits Kill all for 2 passives Leveling to 55 " NOTE: Besides the skill gems listed below, you can also switch and stick to Cyclone and use that for leveling from level 28 onward. Weapons that you can use to get to level 55: " From Level 1 to Level 12 " At Level 12 " You can switch Molten Strike to From Level 18 to 38 " From Level 38 to 55 " At level 28, you can start using Ancestral Warchief: " Unavailable Remember to socket Cyclone gem into alternate weapon and level it at the same time when you reach level 28. Jewelries you can use to manage your mana: Frequently Asked Questions Q: What are the pros/cons of Slayer vs Champion vs Scion vs Chieftain? " Slayer (requires Xoph's Blood or Avatar of Fire) " - Best Uber lab farmer - 20% Culling Strike makes a long fight end so much faster - Overleech makes Vaal Pact not necessary, and it greatly improve survivability if you do pick Vaal Pact Champion (requires Xoph's Blood or Avatar of Fire) " - Ability to run Elemental Overload skill tree without investing into accuracy - Permanent Fortify from Fortitude, allows running 5 x damage support gems for Cyclone - Free intimidate and adrenaline damage buff (if you drop Fortitude and pick First to Strike, Last to Fall) Scion (requires Xoph's Blood or Avatar of Fire) " - Benefit from Slayer's overleech and 10% culling strike - Potentially higher damage than Slayer and do not require "On kill" to achieve that - More jewel sockets and provide more flexibility in gearing choices Chieftain (Do not require Xoph's Blood nor Avatar of Fire) " - Cheapest to gear - Can be great Uber lab farmer (if you follow Uber lab skill tree and gem setup) - Most flexible when it comes to gearing choices (no elemental penalty from Avatar of Fire) - You achieve 100% fire conversion once you complete Cruel lab - Highest potential damage on end game gears Q: How much accuracy should I aim for? " At least 600 on gears / jewels. You want to aim for 90% chance to hit. Q: Why do we pick Point Blank from the skill tree? " Molten Burst from Ngamahu are projectiles and Point Blank will provide 50% more damage to the balls. As shown: Q: I am confused as to what aura to run if I am using (or not) Impresence. " Hopefully this flowchart makes it clearer: Q: What is the easiest way to get 3R 2B 1G on Bronn? " If your Bronn is 6L, Vorici's bench with 2R 1B combination is your best bet. If your Bronn is NOT 6 linked, you can use jewelers method shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79wOQQxXsu0 Q: What priority of gems should I focus on to get it to 20% quality? " Physical damage gems, concentrated gems gets the priority but eventually you will want all gems to be 20/20. Personally, when a gem hit level 20, I just vendor it with 1 gemcutter's prism for a level 1, 20% quality gem and level it all over again. @Hitoseijuro wrote a very comprehensive reply on the specific gems to GCP in Slayer's version of the build. Change Logs EDIT 1: Added defensive path for Ascendancy and updated FAQ. EDIT 2: Updated flasks section to include Atziri's Promise. Special thanks to @noneskii and @ADM0N for pointing out Atziri's Promise to be a viable flask for the build since Chieftain is not restricted by Avatar of Fire. EDIT 3: Added Uber Lab runner skill tree and recommended Immortal Call setup (gems section). EDIT 4: Added Loreweave into recommended gears section EDIT 5: Updated skill tree for patch 3.4. EDIT 6: Added Consecrated Path setup. EDIT 7: Updated skill tree for patch 3.5. EDIT 8: Updated skill tree for patch 3.6. EDIT 9: Updated skill tree for patch 3.7. EDIT 10: Updated gems section. EDIT 11: Updated skill tree for patch 3.8. EDIT 12: Updated skill tree for patch 3.9. EDIT 13: Updated skill tree for patch 3.10. EDIT 14: Updated skill tree for patch 3.11. EDIT 15: Updated skill tree for patch 3.12. EDIT 16: Updated skill tree for patch 3.13. EDIT 17: Updated skill tree for patch 3.14. EDIT 18: Updated skill tree for patch 3.15. Last edited by kira1414 on Feb 4, 2022, 6:36:46 PM Last bumped on Sep 4, 2023, 10:28:39 AM Some items in this post are currently unavailable.	Posted by kira1414 on Feb 25, 2018, 7:06:19 PM Quote this Post
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" Arohongui, Moon's Presence -> Tukohama, War's Herald Why not take tawhoa path? way much safer and have endurance charge generator	Posted by lemosvini on Feb 25, 2018, 10:09:11 PM Quote this Post
" lemosvini wrote: " Arohongui, Moon's Presence -> Tukohama, War's Herald Why not take tawhoa path? way much safer and have endurance charge generator Tukohama War's Herald is better choice because it makes Protector/Warchief totem behave like Decoy and they reflect 15% of maximum life as fire damage when hit by mob. Tawhoa Forest's Strength generates endurance charges on kill and Red Dream jewel will be able to replace it easily.	Posted by kira1414 on Feb 25, 2018, 10:46:25 PM Quote this Post
" kira1414 wrote: " lemosvini wrote: " Arohongui, Moon's Presence -> Tukohama, War's Herald Why not take tawhoa path? way much safer and have endurance charge generator Tukohama War's Herald is better choice because it makes Protector/Warchief totem behave like Decoy and they reflect 15% of maximum life as fire damage when hit by mob. Tawhoa Forest's Strength generates endurance charges on kill and Red Dream jewel will be able to replace it easily. I think it should take into consideration that it is a good cheap option for those who are starting. Endurance Charge generation (budget) + 10% fire damage per endurance 10% of physical damage from hits taken as fire dmg (pretty nice) 0.5% life regen per endurance +100% fire res (budget) + 3% life regen when hit	Posted by lemosvini on Feb 26, 2018, 12:15:20 AM Quote this Post
Hey, I played the slayer version in Abyss thank again, I'll probably go SSF next league so I don't know if i'll be able to play Ngamahu again ... Anyway I have several questions. How do you plan to proc effectively EO ? Is it worth to drop RT for it ? we will need to invest a lot in accuracy then. And finally the slayer version was really solid thanks to the leech, here I don't see so much investment in defenses, do you think VP + totems taunt will be enough or do you expect some changes to the leech that are not mentionned here. Last edited by Antozell on Feb 26, 2018, 7:00:37 AM	Posted by Antozell on Feb 26, 2018, 6:59:58 AM Quote this Post
What if you combine the Chieftain ascendancy and the Xoph's Blood? Will the 100% conversion of physical damage be a fire damage? And is there any point in this?	Posted by Carloccn on Feb 26, 2018, 8:39:38 AM Quote this Post
" Antozell wrote: Hey, I played the slayer version in Abyss thank again, I'll probably go SSF next league so I don't know if i'll be able to play Ngamahu again ... Anyway I have several questions. How do you plan to proc effectively EO ? Is it worth to drop RT for it ? we will need to invest a lot in accuracy then. And finally the slayer version was really solid thanks to the leech, here I don't see so much investment in defenses, do you think VP + totems taunt will be enough or do you expect some changes to the leech that are not mentionned here. At base 5% crit chance, with high attack speed and 90% chance to hit, you should be able to proc Elemental Overload frequently. At least 80% of the time during mapping, and 90+% during boss fights. This is the same as the EO skill tree in the Slayer build. If you push your crit chance to around 14%, you will pretty much have 100% up time for EO. FYI, Slayer EO provides higher damage than Resolute Technique version when you have the proper gears for it. P.S. The skill tree is spec-ed such that you can easily spec out of EO and switch to RT (by investing into Cleaving + Executioner). :) In terms of toughness, Chieftain is pretty much the same as Slayer. With Vaal Pact, you will have enough life per second to keep you alive. And just like Slayer, dropping Flammability for Enfeeble curse is great for leveling your character. ____________________________________________________________________________ " Carloccn wrote: What if you combine the Chieftain ascendancy and the Xoph's Blood? Will the 100% conversion of physical damage be a fire damage? And is there any point in this? You don't need Xoph's Blood at all because you are already at 100% conversion as Ngamahu's Flame convert the other 50%. :) Last edited by kira1414 on Feb 26, 2018, 9:49:55 AM	Posted by kira1414 on Feb 26, 2018, 9:49:39 AM Quote this Post
How do you think this build compares to Ahfack's Crimson Cyclone build in terms of both DPS and survivability?	Posted by vxCHAZxv on Feb 26, 2018, 10:27:12 AM Quote this Post
" vxCHAZxv wrote: How do you think this build compares to Ahfack's Crimson Cyclone build in terms of both DPS and survivability? Having played both Ahfack's and Ngamahu's Slayer, I would say they are both at the same tier of power, with ngamahu being cheaper overall. Vs. Chieftain though I think chieftain would be better for achieving the same amount of DPS for cheap however you lose a bunch of QOL from the Slayer Ascendancy.	Posted by Magnifque on Feb 26, 2018, 11:11:07 AM Quote this Post