Maybe I'm really stupid but I don't understand mana craft on that sceptre... There are options like extra chaos damage or fire damage to spells, so why would we pick mana over these? My first time doing RF so the question might sound foolish but...please explain daddy
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Posted byAmazingwhite#1347on Jun 30, 2019, 9:15:50 AM
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Amazingwhite wrote:
Maybe I'm really stupid but I don't understand mana craft on that sceptre... There are options like extra chaos damage or fire damage to spells, so why would we pick mana over these? My first time doing RF so the question might sound foolish but...please explain daddy
Gain x% of Fire damage as extra chaos damage does not apply to RF nor Scorching Ray. Spell Damage only applies to Scorching Ray but not to RF. It could be an option to drop mana and push SR dps. But mana brings us energy shield, armour and with the additional energy shield comes a bit of regen. If you prefer to push your SR damage part for the cost of energy shield you can do that.
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Posted byzzang#1847on Jun 30, 2019, 11:52:21 AM
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Can someone give me some advise please?
My goal is to kill uber elder but currently I am lacking DPS. Realistically I will never be getting level 100 for all the nodes. I am level 89 and will get 90.
Current Stats: 250k Shaper DPS, 13k Energy shield, 5.3k Mana, 34k Armour. (i switched malevolence for determination)
https://pastebin.com/mR4UAauF
Could anyone give me some advise on how to move forward? I am not planning for facetank everything, but I would like to be able to tank a teleport slam or something if I fuck up.
So what realistic Energy shield, DPS should I go for? Can you please maybe look at my POB? I already invested ~15 ex and I maybe have ~3 more ex I could use on it.
Thanks
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Amazingwhite wrote:
Maybe I'm really stupid but I don't understand mana craft on that sceptre... There are options like extra chaos damage or fire damage to spells, so why would we pick mana over these? My first time doing RF so the question might sound foolish but...please explain daddy
Gain x% of Fire damage as extra chaos damage does not apply to RF nor Scorching Ray. Spell Damage only applies to Scorching Ray but not to RF. It could be an option to drop mana and push SR dps. But mana brings us energy shield, armour and with the additional energy shield comes a bit of regen. If you prefer to push your SR damage part for the cost of energy shield you can do that.
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Can someone give me some advise please?
My goal is to kill uber elder but currently I am lacking DPS. Realistically I will never be getting level 100 for all the nodes. I am level 89 and will get 90.
Current Stats: 250k Shaper DPS, 13k Energy shield, 5.3k Mana, 34k Armour. (i switched malevolence for determination)
https://pastebin.com/mR4UAauF
Could anyone give me some advise on how to move forward? I am not planning for facetank everything, but I would like to be able to tank a teleport slam or something if I fuck up.
So what realistic Energy shield, DPS should I go for? Can you please maybe look at my POB? I already invested ~15 ex and I maybe have ~3 more ex I could use on it.
Thanks
Stats should be enough to handle Uber Elder. Uber Elder is not a DPS fight after a certain point. It's a mechanics fight. You need to know where to place the void zones, the timing of the spawn of mass propagators so you can kill them without spreading their area dot, and just be comfortable with their mechanics overall. You can switch out one of your rings for a dream fragments ring to help out with freeze/chill so you can move around easier as well.
Also, your scepter adds fire damage to spells so it will mess up your EE every time you cast storm brand. Look to change it for a Doon's if you don't have the currency to get a scepter that copies the recommended scepter of the build.
I would also look to switch up your gem links to 5 link RF instead of SR as the Uber Elder fight does not lend itself well to SR because the bosses will rarely give you the time to maximize scorching ray.
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Posted byDev1ator#6107on Jun 30, 2019, 9:29:06 PM
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question. does aura quality affect RF range? like 20% purity of fire increase AOE. or it only affects the range of the aura itself?
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Posted byBintsuki#4505on Jul 1, 2019, 3:00:00 AM
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Marleyismymiddlename wrote:
Can someone give me some advise please?
My goal is to kill uber elder but currently I am lacking DPS. Realistically I will never be getting level 100 for all the nodes. I am level 89 and will get 90.
Current Stats: 250k Shaper DPS, 13k Energy shield, 5.3k Mana, 34k Armour. (i switched malevolence for determination)
https://pastebin.com/mR4UAauF
Could anyone give me some advise on how to move forward? I am not planning for facetank everything, but I would like to be able to tank a teleport slam or something if I fuck up.
So what realistic Energy shield, DPS should I go for? Can you please maybe look at my POB? I already invested ~15 ex and I maybe have ~3 more ex I could use on it.
Thanks
On tree :
- You don't have Pain Attunement = you miss 30% more* SR dps ;
- You don't have Holy Fire = you miss 28.8% more* dps ;
- You don't have Growth & Decat = you miss 9.2% more* dps ;
- Your Healthy Mind in the sock between EE & EO does not have any life to convert in Mana. Switch place with your Honour Vessel jewel = + ~200 ES ...
In your Stuff :
- Your scepter have fire spell dmg. This completly fuck up your EE setup = 62.5% less* dmg ;
Also, your scepter have horrible stats. On my advice, zzang added the rare scepter you see in the PoB. But this solution is only relevant because of the high amount of stats on the rare scepter. Otherwise Doon (see budget Pastebin) will always be better.
So sell/vendor your scepter, and buy a Doon Cuberyari ;
- Bated Breath is a shity belt for any LL RF build. A rare shaper with "16+% Energy Shield recovery rate" affixe will be better.
One your gems :
- Most of your dps gems setup does not have any quality. Quality are source of dps on SR & RF setup, that should provide something like 20% more dmg.
For Uber Elder, considering the mobility of this build, which isn't the fastest one as we all know, you should have, at least ~600+k dps, 14k ES and almost 1k net life regen. Otherwise, it will be extremly hard to dodge manualy most of spells/attacks of the fight.
*the use of less or more is refered to the wording in poe were "reduction" and "less" are separate way of calcul, exaclty like "increased" and "more". The "reduction" and "increased" are additive, while "less" and "more" are multiplicative. So "less" are the most effective reduction that may hit your build.
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Bintsuki wrote:
question. does aura quality affect RF range? like 20% purity of fire increase AOE. or it only affects the range of the aura itself?
No. RF radius depends on RF lvl and gems supports that affect radius of the skill (like Conc effect or Inc AOE support). Quality on aura is useless for this build.
And keep in mind that except for extremly specifics gems, buff coming from an active gems will never provide buff to an other active gems, especially if they are not both linked.
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Marleyismymiddlename wrote:
Can someone give me some advise please?
My goal is to kill uber elder but currently I am lacking DPS. Realistically I will never be getting level 100 for all the nodes. I am level 89 and will get 90.
Current Stats: 250k Shaper DPS, 13k Energy shield, 5.3k Mana, 34k Armour. (i switched malevolence for determination)
https://pastebin.com/mR4UAauF
Could anyone give me some advise on how to move forward? I am not planning for facetank everything, but I would like to be able to tank a teleport slam or something if I fuck up.
So what realistic Energy shield, DPS should I go for? Can you please maybe look at my POB? I already invested ~15 ex and I maybe have ~3 more ex I could use on it.
Thanks
On tree :
- You don't have Pain Attunement = you miss 30% more* SR dps ;
- You don't have Holy Fire = you miss 28.8% more* dps ;
- You don't have Growth & Decat = you miss 9.2% more* dps ;
- Your Healthy Mind in the sock between EE & EO does not have any life to convert in Mana. Switch place with your Honour Vessel jewel = + ~200 ES ...
In your Stuff :
- Your scepter have fire spell dmg. This completly fuck up your EE setup = 62.5% less* dmg ;
Also, your scepter have horrible stats. On my advice, zzang added the rare scepter you see in the PoB. But this solution is only relevant because of the high amount of stats on the rare scepter. Otherwise Doon (see budget Pastebin) will always be better.
So sell/vendor your scepter, and buy a Doon Cuberyari ;
- Bated Breath is a shity belt for any LL RF build. A rare shaper with "16+% Energy Shield recovery rate" affixe will be better.
One your gems :
- Most of your dps gems setup does not have any quality. Quality are source of dps on SR & RF setup, that should provide something like 20% more dmg.
For Uber Elder, considering the mobility of this build, which isn't the fastest one as we all know, you should have, at least ~600+k dps, 14k ES and almost 1k net life regen. Otherwise, it will be extremly hard to dodge manualy most of spells/attacks of the fight.
*the use of less or more is refered to the wording in poe were "reduction" and "less" are separate way of calcul, exaclty like "increased" and "more". The "reduction" and "increased" are additive, while "less" and "more" are multiplicative. So "less" are the most effective reduction that may hit your build.
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Bintsuki wrote:
question. does aura quality affect RF range? like 20% purity of fire increase AOE. or it only affects the range of the aura itself?
No. RF radius depends on RF lvl and gems supports that affect radius of the skill (like Conc effect or Inc AOE support). Quality on aura is useless for this build.
And keep in mind that except for extremly specifics gems, buff coming from an active gems will never provide buff to an other active gems, especially if they are not both linked.
Thanks alot for your reply. I will see what I can do, i know about the fire damage on staff, just did not really go around it yet as i was critting on normal mobs then using dps on boss. I will see what i can do to get the necessary ES/DPS, since I only really have 1-2 more passive points i can use.
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can someone help me, i just want to know if there's any benefit have resist as much as OP has in POB. like is they any use for the resist over the cap limit? sry if this has been asked before
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Posted byepsser#5206on Jul 1, 2019, 10:08:07 AM
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epsser wrote:
can someone help me, i just want to know if there's any benefit have resist as much as OP has in POB. like is they any use for the resist over the cap limit? sry if this has been asked before
Other than protection against Elemental Weakness Map mods and some extra Fire resist against Phoenix (due to the debuff) you dont need to overcap resists much.
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Posted byzzang#1847on Jul 1, 2019, 12:17:11 PM
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If I choose to use RF gem setup on the 6-link, which gems could fit it over there?
RF + Burning Damage + Concentrated Effect + Elemental Focus...
+ Efficacy ? + Increased Area? Any other that could be lnked?
Thx
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Posted bytnondillo#4258on Jul 2, 2019, 12:13:50 AM
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