In case I missed it in the 260;some odd pages can we start theory crafting the life version? Is there a reasonable alternative to kaoms so I don't have to weapon swap on bosses? Any help in the way of tree ideas or gearing would be much appreciated. I've spent well over 1200 ex on this build and would like to salvage it best I can. Thanks ~Old
you can have 7k life with belly and starkonja + 20% damage reduction barrage build with 90-100k rotc dps.
full conversion idea + global penetration idea is coming from pvp;
history
pvp scene was a bit more populated than it is now, so we were playing very frequently vs each other.
with introduction of 100% elemenetal damage conversion talismans(100% of X damage taken as Y damage implicits), in pvp penetration gems started to be useless. when you deal light damage and use lightning penetration gem, those talismans converts that damage to for example fire by 100%, so your penetration gem was becoming useless.
so i decided to convert damage to 100% elemental damage(instead of dealing pure one ele type that i combine with penetrate gem), add put every "more damage" multiplier gem in 6l, get really high X-Y damage and stack global penetration. people were doing tornado shot builds with 6l eva chests around those days. barrage wasn't even popular.
blast's touch
i was using hrimsorrow first, then switched to signal fire.
my build has been always life base with kaoms or leg kaoms, so this build started as a life based build. it was unefficient cause it was life based.
i dont have pve mindset much, i'm just good with numbers and calculations, BST took full conversion idea, revamped tree for CI and pve usage according to his taste, apparently CI was capable of doing what i could do with 1500ex build just with 500ex. it was a great idea. since baker did in beta, nobody dared to play CI archer seriously. he supported his CI idea with really great streaming and guide support. here we have most popular bow build at the moment.
now it's nerfed.
life?
so, no worries this build works really well with life build too, my char has 7.3k life with belly, i have 8.8k+ life with leg kaoms.
it's not my thread, it's blasting's thread, so i won't be doing any ads of what i do, and what i do not. i can just say that, dont use rats when you are making a life build, stick with belly, use starkonja. get 160% life at least from tree and jewels. it's way cheaper also. it wasnt a good idea to go life build back then, after 3.0, everybody has to consider converting the build to life it seems.
I appreciate the history and the info on the life version working with a belly. Guess I'll fire up pathofbuilding and get busy.
I really hope they won't move Vaal Pact from the current location. Moving it somewhere to marauder would further shift the balance in favour of the boring left-side-builds and make a life-based tree more complicated to build.
i have a question, well spent some time crafting a harbinger in hopes of getting something good, got this
,harbinger has 304 pdps btw , now i used a legacy reach 321 pdps one to be precise. The harbinger Bow does feel stronger on clear speed and it doe sboost my barrage by about 9k paper dps. Now my question is what to use rech or harbinger?
i have a question, well spent some time crafting a harbinger in hopes of getting something good, got this
,harbinger has 304 pdps btw , now i used a legacy reach 321 pdps one to be precise. The harbinger Bow does feel stronger on clear speed and it doe sboost my barrage by about 9k paper dps. Now my question is what to use rech or harbinger?
only path of building can help you, import your character and check your dps against all type of bosses..
i have a question, well spent some time crafting a harbinger in hopes of getting something good, got this
,harbinger has 304 pdps btw , now i used a legacy reach 321 pdps one to be precise. The harbinger Bow does feel stronger on clear speed and it doe sboost my barrage by about 9k paper dps. Now my question is what to use rech or harbinger?
Putting your bows into my PoB, it's not even close.
Your RoTC is getting 52363 DPS x 5 projectiles assuming your setup is TS, FA, Pierce, PPAD, PhysToL, WED. Barrage shows 363560 for All Arrows using +2 Barrage helm.
That Harbinger is getting 37129 DPS x 5 projectiles assuming your setup is TS, FA, Pierce, GMP, PhystoL, WED. Barrash shows 267992 for All Arrows using +2 Barrage helm.
The Harby simply isn't good enough to overcome the extra projectiles allowing you to replace GMP in a RoTC. This is a big reason why RoTC was nerfed.
It's also the reason that most people running this build should be using a legacy RoTC unless they have access to a Brood Twine, Kraken Guide or a Glyph Mark.
Nothing like a cup of coffee and some gaming math to start your Saturday.
Last edited by Crypt0_POE on May 20, 2017, 11:09:08 AM
Would REALLY appreciate some feedback, I am loving this build but am struggling to get it going.
http://poe-profile.info/profile/deadmanza
I am saving towards SF at the moment.
What have I done wrong thus far?
Your build is a hot mess.
Reread the gem setup part. You should have pierce in there. You don't need both FA and PPAD, pick one or the other.
This is not a cheap build once you get to the highest tier maps. Skyforths help a lot. Hubris with +2 barrage enchant helps a lot. Your rings should be opals.
Here's a secret, if you don't have Skyforths you can get by with boots that have the %chance to avoid being stunned if you've killed recently. That opens your ammy slot for dmg + %ES.
Your bow is weak and you should really aim for a legacy RoTC.
