[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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skoupidi wrote:
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MFJones wrote:
Hi guys, I've decided to give this build another try with a 450 exalt budget this time. I hope it works

Do you guys think a 520 DPS bow is good enough? It's no brood twine but it should allow me to plow through shaper and guardians a lot easier versus a 400 dps bow right?




Doing more than fine with this one. But if you're standard then why not just get a brood twine ?


Your bow is ~500 DPS? It looks good. I dont play standard actually I'm talking about breach.

How much was your bow? Im hoping to find something like that for sale within my budget.
MFJonesHC
Last edited by MFJones on Jan 11, 2017, 2:06:48 AM
I have recently made some adjusts too my tree, dropped a little dps and picked up some extra dps.. now sitting at 66k barrage in hideout, still using the same 388 pdps bow. Big jump from the 36k I had when I first killed shaper at level 89.

Cant wait to try it out tonight on stream vs shaper.
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lolheretic wrote:
I have recently made some adjusts too my tree, dropped a little dps and picked up some extra dps.. now sitting at 66k barrage in hideout, still using the same 388 pdps bow. Big jump from the 36k I had when I first killed shaper at level 89.

Cant wait to try it out tonight on stream vs shaper.


i will come check it out
MFJonesHC
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MFJones wrote:
Hi guys, I've decided to give this build another try with a 450 exalt budget this time. I hope it works

Do you guys think a 520 DPS bow is good enough? It's no brood twine but it should allow me to plow through shaper and guardians a lot easier versus a 400 dps bow right?


The budget you use on a build won't save you if you simply lack the player skills or mechanic knowledge that some fights demand. I suggest you learn the fights before so you won't get disappointed again and blame the build you play for your own failures.
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Knuckledust13 wrote:
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MFJones wrote:
Hi guys, I've decided to give this build another try with a 450 exalt budget this time. I hope it works

Do you guys think a 520 DPS bow is good enough? It's no brood twine but it should allow me to plow through shaper and guardians a lot easier versus a 400 dps bow right?


The budget you use on a build won't save you if you simply lack the player skills or mechanic knowledge that some fights demand. I suggest you learn the fights before so you won't get disappointed again and blame the build you play for your own failures.


For the record I was still able to do shaper and all guardians deathless 99%. It just took very very long, much longer than I was comfortable with. It just didn't feel efficient and strong enough so I assume my gear was too shit and my previous budget was Way too low (~80 ex).
MFJonesHC
Last edited by MFJones on Jan 11, 2017, 4:23:39 AM
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MFJones wrote:
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skoupidi wrote:
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MFJones wrote:
Hi guys, I've decided to give this build another try with a 450 exalt budget this time. I hope it works

Do you guys think a 520 DPS bow is good enough? It's no brood twine but it should allow me to plow through shaper and guardians a lot easier versus a 400 dps bow right?




Doing more than fine with this one. But if you're standard then why not just get a brood twine ?


Your bow is ~500 DPS? It looks good. I dont play standard actually I'm talking about breach.

How much was your bow? Im hoping to find something like that for sale within my budget.


Mine is 440 pdps 505 total. You can mirror it if you are interested ;) Got it for 40 ex a while ago.
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skoupidi wrote:


Mine is 440 pdps 505 total. You can mirror it if you are interested ;) Got it for 40 ex a while ago.


How much mirror fee would u charge?
MFJonesHC
I've just put on the stream for those with any questions about the build or who just want to see it in action in a temp league :)

twitch.tv/heretizzle
any idea how i can improve my build or is it only possible by getting a brood twine :)?

Last edited by DBM92 on Jan 11, 2017, 10:09:24 AM
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pNR wrote:
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Rivx wrote:
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Rupenus wrote:
added fire damage works different than "added lightning damage" gem, it adds fire damage according to your % of your base phys damage pool. added fire is known as one of the highest DPS buffs for phys conversion builds for that reason. since this build has global penetration, it doesnt matter what element we are using.


I'm getting significantly higher DPS using SlowProj over AddedFire. On paper, Added Fire adds 45% damage as fire and gives 10% increased fire damage. Since we already have 30+35+15+36=116% added damage (161% with ToH), it actually only increases our damage by around 20%. Fire damage is also slightly less valuable than what the tooltip shows due to extra lightning penetration from Vinktars. Slower Projectiles adds 30% flat multiplier. 10% increased fire is also obviously worse than 10% projectile damage.


Thats old news.

Best Gem Setup for barrage is the following:

Barrage - PPAD - P2L - Slower Proj - Ele Focus - WED




I want to run some tests with this gem. I have a question for some of you that have done some testing already.

This does not effect attack speed mods in any way with the like 48% slower projectile speed? I am guessing it will slow down the arrow speed if you are not in point blank range and have to spam barrage from a distance yet can someone verify? I know paper damage numbers are about 10k higher yet I have always worried it would effect the speed of the barrage and attack speed of the arrows and reduce leeching ability?

Also Can someone explain the real difference in attack speed mods vs projectile speed mods. I never quite understood it entirely except for it slowing down projectiles thus making the range of the projectile maybe shorter. If anyone has an easy to understand knowledge of like Attack speed IAS vs Slower projectile mods on the gem I would greatly appreciate some help understanding the mechanics of it.

Thanks a million in advance.

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