Commandment of Winter

it's bullshit that people can invest all of their gear/passives into their respective damage and deal high damage.

nerf investment bankers.

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robmafia wrote:

it's bullshit that people can invest all of their gear/passives into their respective damage and deal high damage.

nerf investment bankers.

yea man, 1 fucking link skill one shotting 12k+ ES with dying sun + 120proj damage or 120% spell damage.

HUGE investment. how can you handle such investment seriously?

well... my post was facetious (ie: like your kb didn't one-shot with unblockable explosions from 3 screens away? haha), but sure. i'll play devil's advocate.

oh, wait. i already did. so... umm... recap?

i don't use dying sun. or snakepit. no extra proj, a whole 10% proj speed, some spell/ele damage is all i have on my tree/gear that would boost it (and most of my dmg mods are trap or lightning, so...)

i watch people die all the time to my lightning traps and then see the winter projectile fly past their corpse, only to then read about them bitching about winter. as if it made any difference.

that said, in pvp - obviously, on kill glove enchants are pretty worthless. so that leaves on hit or when hit. there aren't many helpful options.

the funniest part about the winter bitching is that it's STILL primarily from people abusing some other cheese, either in blatant bugs (flasks not removing status effects, range exceeding the animation [invisible]) or explosions/secondary damage.

at this point, i honestly think most of the complaining is just from people who actively want to complain.

zomg, this slow moving and easily avoidable single projectile that procs at most once per 10 seconds that would only take about 5-20% of one's ehp if they decide to remain stationary and let it hit? SUPER CANCER. NERF! REMOVE! VENTURE CAPITAL!

You don t need big investment to make winter lethal, if you already play with sambar that 6/12% penetration on them (and possibly 30% block pen on your winter too), even with base commandment of winter since it hit at least twice in a row it s 50% life taken away most of the time.

Add conversion for some build and a players with sambar + xoph/cold amu will deal 22/32% pen on winter only.

Then you have 10% boot enchant....

Even "melee", ngamahu(whatever stupid name it is ) axe users will have xoph+the axe equal 30% fire pen on the projectile giving them a 40% pen on winter proj with boots.

Lot of build use at least 1 global pen one way or another making it lethal most of the time even if the tooltype look not that big.

(not even taking in consideration the 30% more damage from deadeye or point blanc users)

so you don t even need to build around it at all.

its funny seeing people in full mirrored gear wanting everthing that doesnt take 1k exalts to be bad. Just move out of the way of winter and u will be fine XD Anubiet does it very well!

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GrindcoreTHRALL wrote:

its funny seeing people in full mirrored gear wanting everthing that doesnt take 1k exalts to be bad. Just move out of the way of winter and u will be fine

Move of the way say grindcorethrall!

Which way? Not on his left/right for sure since it s covered by overlapse proj from fireball/golems.

Move front? nope anyway the projectiles are invisible and from 4 screen away! Maybe just stay behind him on the hill and witness pvp build meta forum in action.

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GrindcoreTHRALL wrote:

XD Anubiet does it very well!

ha yea every build should be ranged and use blink/QOF!



Fuck yea good advices!

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(ie: like your kb didn't one-shot with unblockable explosions from 3 screens away? haha)

sorry i stopped reading after this.

why are you just another trapper who has no idea about the game and gets cocky and pretends to be bossy because you have killed some people with clicking your mines or traps whatever?

those explosions are blockable, evadable.

well, all those winter users are no problem for me, i'm just being critical here and want a fair pvp experience for everyone. otherwise i can't really feel that i had a battle with my opponent and i won because i'm better not because shit is imbalanced.

COm of winter + Volkuur's Guidance + decay + sambar . 40% elem pen + dots hum another fun combo vs life builds from this broken as fuck enchant.

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Head_Less wrote:

COm of winter + Volkuur's Guidance + decay + sambar . 40% elem pen + dots hum another fun combo vs life builds from this broken as fuck enchant.

See thats optimizing the enchant well. I like when the community takes something weak and makes it work well in pvp. GGG would applaud. GG build 10/10 originality points.