PVP Supporter Pack - Chris responded 7/10 & 7/11 & 7/12

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Okay! Chris responded again and I have his blessing to share the following information with the community.

This is a direct copy/paste from Chris during our convo:

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I spoke to the balance guys about the T values and they agree with the importance of it. We may be able to include an update of these into 2.4.0, though that entirely depends when various developers finish with their part of the upcoming content. I think that including correct T values for new skills is a must for the future.

This is great news for 4 reasons:

-This is the first acknowledgment I've seen of GGG addressing skills not going through the pvp damage reduction formula (No T Value).

-All skills will be assigned T values, as early as 2.4, but as he mentioned it depends on how everything else is going. I know this isn't a guaranteed timeframe, but it is them agreeing they need to be fixed sooner rather than later and are showing they are going to do something about it.

- All New skills introduced will have T values.

- We do not need to purchase anything in order for the T values to be addressed! They are handing this on their own, like many agreed should be the case anyway.

I'm really happy with the outcome so far!!!


So what about the PVP supporter packs?

In the immediate future, it seems unlikely, but he admitted (and we knew from the start anyway) that this will take time. This is not a definitive "No". He still likes the idea, and will continue to bring it up with the team when the opportunity arises to discuss it and/or make changes. I have asked him if they need any input from the community in the future to please reach out, and we'd be more than happy to help in a harmonious manner that can benefit everyone.


For people just now reading this thread and/or haven't posted here yet, please post if a PVP supporter pack is something that interests you. We should continue to try and gather concrete numbers for GGG because this matters!

For everyone that has already posted and shown support, a sincere and deep thanks for helping. Judging by the T value discussion, I think we're finally starting to make some waves, and we just need to work together in order to continue.

If there are any updates I will come here and post!

Thanks everyone for being involved! PVP in this game has great promise and we need to all work together to help it thrive.

-Ahfack

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New skills not going through the same pvp damage reduction formulas as others is arguably the biggest problem with PVP at the moment (Vortex for example), 2nd only to AoE overlap FW/Wall shotgunning etc... but I know you'll just defend that. I'm not saying PVP is going to be perfect or balanced, that's not what we're discussing. The next step is T values being addressed. GGG is saying they are going to do this on their own like everyone wanted without the need of a supporter pack. That is great news.

You will believe it when you see it re: T values?

How about a friendly wager?

I bet you they will address T values on their own.
You bet me they will not.

Cool?

Edit: not you ice lol