[PVP] This is the end... My only friend, the end [PVP]

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Ceri wrote:

I would prefer if GGG used their limited resources on improving and adding to the actual game, so no thanks. To me, every resource spent on PvP is time wasted.

PVP has been a neglected part of the 'actual' game since the beginning. My ideas for PVP suchas lvl brackets and tournaments would blend perfectly with the race seasons so that top ladder placements for each bracket receive significant currency prizes. This would be beneficial to the marketplace as more players would be playing PVP to level and they would have a greater need for items. Because of a ladder system there's no need to balance anything for pvp, only the top finishers get significant prizes and with the dynamic design of PofE every build has a counter.


I think that the notion of having two ladders one at the beginning of a race season and one at the final 30% of the season would have non-geared for the first and twinks for the second.

Having the finals matches fought to the death would also increase the volume of twitch subscribers significantly. I'd bet it would be so popular watching players die in arena and be removed from the season for the chance to win say, an exalted orb... that GGG would want to build a spectator service into the game just like Rome had

maybe instead of asking (or rather nagging in a bad-mannered way) for pvp in non-pvp focused game you can just go and play a game that is centered around pvp competition?

the only people asking for pvp elements into non-pvp games are griefers and seal-clubbers because it is very easy to be good at something noone else cares about.

ggg listened to a handful of 'pvp elite' players and introduced pvp - then in turned out that it is a gear-gated brag-fest and a griefers heaven (spawn camping makes people feel superior..)

poe will never be a pvp game. like it or not. this thread where you mostly talk to yourself should be a clear sign that NOONE GIVES A DAMN.

So far the critics have been pretty poetastic ...

_Go play a different game

_PVP sucks GGG won't do it

_They tried to do PVP it sucked they won't do it

and my most favorite critic statement

_Hi I suck at pvp, I suck at this game, I suck at life


Notice how none of you have actually criticized any of my ideas or are willing to admit that the system I thought would actually be beneficial to every aspect of PofE.



I've addressed every doubt posed against the PVP system outlined in the top of the thread and reinforced throughout

pvp is the only solution for everything which will mean the death of this game

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There is nothing for a level 100 hero to do, except for suicide.

There is almost no competition for 90% (probably much higher percentage) of the players who run races.

There is no competition or motivation to pvp in hardcore/standard leagues.

This game has a small pvp community because it hasn't had a successful pvp system. The pve community will get smaller, not larger with the current structure of races once it reaches its natural game dispersion plateau; after reaching a certain amount of popularity growth it will begin to decline.

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pvp is the only solution for everything which will mean the death of this game

I might be dense, but i honestly have difficulty grasping the first post. Why do you namedrop yourself so incredibly often and throw in statements everywhere? Are you trying to submit suggestions or promoting some sort of layout?

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der1ved wrote:

So far the critics have been pretty poetastic ...

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I've addressed every doubt posed against the PVP system outlined in the top of the thread and reinforced throughout

... except one. Most people talking here are not interested in PvP or competetive games/gameplay in general (they want to play together not against someone). On the other hand, even most competetive gamers in PoE don't play PvP and I never heard them care for PvP except a very small number. It seems your system doesn't appeal the average PoE gamer nor players that should be interested. And when you start being cynical, you will lose even the last remaining supporter(s) for your idea. What a pitty. Even with good memories in mind about good pvp in other games... I do no longer care :> GL

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der1ved wrote:

Notice how none of you have actually criticized any of my ideas.

Oh, ok then. I think your ideas would do nothing positive for this game, in any way, shape or form. I do not want PvP at all in PoE, and I think that any developer time spent on PvP systems and content is a complete waste of time. In fact I would suggest to remove the dueling options and all the PvP stuff already in, since I firmly believe that PvP destroys any game its introduced into, and attracts all the griefing douchebags who tends to poison the community. Note when I say "introduced into" - I have no problem at all with games designed with PvP as a focus from the beginning. PoE however, is not one of those games.

Clear enough?

I have to agree with Ceri. Though many pvpers are polite good people, in every mmo I've played before it's the pvpers who end up making the community toxic for everyone. Comparatively to other games, PoE has a very polite and mature community so it's understandable most players would balk at the idea of devoting more resources to pvp.

Whether your ideas are good or not, I don't think most players care.