(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

Can't really afford a great chest piece. Is this build viable with Tabula Rasa? Or is the loss of stats too much for a Cyclone build?

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dbush2765 wrote:

Can't really afford a great chest piece. Is this build viable with Tabula Rasa? Or is the loss of stats too much for a Cyclone build?

Tabula Rasa is perfectly fine; I would suggest prioritizing defensive points over offensive on the passive tree to compensate for the lack of body Armour. Nothing is to much for cyclone to overcome!

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Lighty wrote:

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dbush2765 wrote:

Can't really afford a great chest piece. Is this build viable with Tabula Rasa? Or is the loss of stats too much for a Cyclone build?

Tabula Rasa is perfectly fine; I would suggest prioritizing defensive points over offensive on the passive tree to compensate for the lack of body Armour. Nothing is to much for cyclone to overcome!

Thanks for the quick reply! I'll be sure to grab the defensive stuff first. Don't have any big buys coming up, so hopefully I can grab a Belly of the Beast sometime in the near future :)

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dbush2765 wrote:

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Lighty wrote:

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dbush2765 wrote:

Can't really afford a great chest piece. Is this build viable with Tabula Rasa? Or is the loss of stats too much for a Cyclone build?

Tabula Rasa is perfectly fine; I would suggest prioritizing defensive points over offensive on the passive tree to compensate for the lack of body Armour. Nothing is to much for cyclone to overcome!

Thanks for the quick reply! I'll be sure to grab the defensive stuff first. Don't have any big buys coming up, so hopefully I can grab a Belly of the Beast sometime in the near future :)

No problem, belly is good and not to expensive, Kaoms Heart is the definite #1 body slot.

What dps has to be with maces at 80+ ? Im running Mahori Erqi, for now linked with fortify,blood magic and melee physical,planing add add fire and wed. 3.8к hp and just 15k dps with hoa and hatred up. I might be wrong but its low number right? Got all dps notes. Thats my gear, first to change is the chest for sure and no idea what to do next, and yea i love immortal call, its save my ass every map

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Rorinko wrote:

What dps has to be with maces at 80+ ? Im running Mahori Erqi, for now linked with fortify,blood magic and melee physical,planing add add fire and wed. 3.8к hp and just 15k dps with hoa and hatred up. I might be wrong but its low number right? Got all dps notes. Thats my gear, first to change is the chest for sure and no idea what to do next, and yea i love immortal call, its save my ass every map

Looks pretty good, marohi effectively gives a 7Link but overall try and get it 5linked at least for a large dps boost, often running hatred and haste alone is best due to its -movement speed and low attacks speed which are so important for cyclone overall. After you 5-6l marohi kaoms heart would be the next best thing then slowly upgrade your rares and maybe a mings heart down the road. Im running maces at 93 right now and ill be posting the final upgraded passive tree within a few days when I do my next large guide update.

Decoy totem isnt working with CwDT. I checked the levels of each gem. Whats up with that? Works on temp chains fine

EDIT: Never mind, using Vengeance, Endurance charge on melee stun, curse on hit + temporal chains instead.

I've only really played crit builds, so it took a lot of wandering/lurking to get a grasp on the needs and wants of a non-crit build. Eventually I found myself constantly coming back to your guide for your personal insight or just to gauge and see how close/far my thought process fell in line with yours. All in all I feel that I have a decent understanding of it all, at least in comparison to what I started out with.

So yeah, great work! You've got some great info here, and the upcoming updates seem to include a lot of things I felt needed to be touched up on a bit. I'm pretty excited to read up on it all!

Gratitude aside, I have a question about Maces vs Axes. I'm not too sure which route to go as I have two weapons that have very similar pdps (440ish). The major differences are that the Axe has a prefix open and a chunk of Fire Res while the Mace is bloated with a high Strength roll and has extra stun utility.

Weapons in Question

I might be stating the obvious, but the Axe has a prefix open while the Mace has no room for an extra mod. Axes have +1 melee range in comparison, but Maces gain an extra 4% area of effect radius from the Bone Breaker node so (I don't think) it comes too far behind Axes in that respect.

My trees are pretty much the same as yours, except I opted to not go for Champion of the Cause and Sovereignty so I pathed a bit differently into the Templar area. The Aura nodes feel like something I'd respec into once I reach more endgame gear.

Axe vs Mace Passive Tree Differences

Weapons in question aside, Maces feel superior as far as passive tree goes. Axes having a chance to gain Onslaught on kill is pretty significant, but that can always be augmented by a Death Rush if desired (albeit dedicating a ring slot).

So yeah, I'm at a bit of a crossroads on which weapon to use and on which weapon to sell to fuel the rest of the build. Kind of feel like a deer in headlights as the only experience I have with Cyclone is a Crit Ele Prolif based one. I would greatly appreciate your insight on what route I should choose, because right now I feel like any decision I'd make would be a "wrong" one.

Really enjoying this build so far! I just bought devoto's today, and im really liking that - it seemed to greatly help with my Dex issue freeing up a jewel slot.

I am saving my currency for a good chest piece. You say Kaom's heart is the best one.. Will that increase my DPS much, or is it mostly all about the HP?

Here is my current gear:

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Eza0o07 wrote:

Decoy totem isnt working with CwDT. I checked the levels of each gem. Whats up with that? Works on temp chains fine

After the 2.0 patch, totems aren't cast any more but placed (using totem placement speed). I was sad to see it as well.