GGGs reasoning on not making a SFL?

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LSN wrote:

I say 95% of ppl who vote for it (e.g. in that poll) don't know that a SFL would not give them a longer or more enjoyable gaming experience.

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OssanTensa wrote:

Well I'll come out and say that i may revisit this game if drops are improved or maybe its more a case of more items (orange) needs to be introduced, which I know is slowly happening in anyway.

So I enjoy games with lots of items and great drop rates. Basically I'm talking like TQ and currently Grimdawn. I still play TQ even after all these years. I roll in the loot and I'm loving it. Grimdawn is great that way as well and I can guarantee you that I will be playing that for many years to come.

But as far as a SFL in POE is concerned, I believe it will be a mistake. POE is made by "traders" for "traders" and that should not change. Its GGG passion and its working for them whether people believe it or not.

Grimdawn is made by "adventurers" for "adventurers" (single player). If thats your thing, seek out something similar.

Don't try and make POE a jack of all trades but a master of none..

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Xavderion wrote:

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LSN wrote:

I say 95% of ppl who vote for it (e.g. in that poll) don't know that a SFL would not give them a longer or more enjoyable gaming experience.

Inb4 people call you Jay Wilson :3 I agree with you btw, most people don't know what makes a game fun to them. They're not game designers, after all. A good example is D3, where most people think the AH ruined it. That's simply false.

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LSN wrote:

Indeed khemintiri this is what is happening here.

It is a well known strategy of politically correct activists to terminate every level of real discussion (policy) as there is only one correct view of things to them.
These ppl think their opinion is god given and everyone who differs from it is naturally evil human being.


What they in fact miss about all that is that I plainly try to explain why a SFL has many downsides, especially when looking at it from the developers perspective. This is the topic of the thread.

The topic of the thread is not: I like SFL more for no rational reason (therefore a fascist) that I could make a point with in a discussion.

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LSN wrote:

p.s: Venator my offer still stands. PM me your ingame name, ingame I will give you a ts3 server where we can meet. I want to see what type of guy you are, where you are from and of which age you are and what level of intelligence is behind that forum name.

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Teridax wrote:

This thread has been dragged into a demented world of "facism" and "ideology" "crusade and "political XXX"

Its just a internet discussion on pixels holy shit D:

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VenatorPoE wrote:

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LSN wrote:

Indeed khemintiri this is what is happening here.

It is a well known strategy of politically correct activists to terminate every level of real discussion (policy) as there is only one correct view of things to them.
These ppl think their opinion is god given and everyone who differs from it is naturally evil human being.


What they in fact miss about all that is that I plainly try to explain why a SFL has many downsides, especially when looking at it from the developers perspective. This is the topic of the thread.

The topic of the thread is not: I like SFL more for no rational reason (therefore a fascist) that I could make a point with in a discussion.

This is exactly what you are doing, not me. You've either not read these threads as they developed, or you chose to ignore everything but what you wanted to see so you could base your argument on it.

Myself I already stated (several times) that increased drop rates are not a good idea. I like the idea of SFL, but my arguments are not blindly pro-SFL, but based on an objective view. Your posting is based on the premise that increased drop rates are expected in SFL, and that is not correct. I've also made a post about the difference between the "omnipresent Mr. Whiney" who demands increased drop rates in any opportunity given, and the guy who tries to make a good suggestion (regardless of whether the suggestion might be bad for whatever reasons, there's a big difference). I've also stated that these little drop increases GGG is implementing are probably good for the game in the long run (in the business sense), regardless of how some of us see it as a bad thing.

SFL has downsides just like Standard and Hardcore have downsides. You can't say otherwise because it makes you subjective (basing the argument on your own, personal preferences).


Here, right before posting this, I notice that you have another subjective post based on another "increased droprates" post.

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Xavderion wrote:

Inb4 people call you Jay Wilson :3 I agree with you btw, most people don't know what makes a game fun to them. They're not game designers, after all. A good example is D3, where most people think the AH ruined it. That's simply false.