Scion - BANANATHROW lvl100x2 proven;uber atziri capable ... (crit ele spectral mass dps and mf capable) - Forum

" Veruski wrote: if you can't do reflect maps without LL gem, then you should always have LL gem on (imo). single reflect will never be a problem! just some extra safety in case we met double reflect (+cannot die aura)... Almost nobody dances sober, unless they happen to be insane.	Posted by kalktresor on Jul 9, 2014, 3:52:43 PM Quote this Post
" Redblade wrote: " Veruski wrote: " Redblade wrote: Sure champ I'll make sure to do that once you provide me with a few thousand chromes... if chromatics are the only thing stopping you from using a superior setup, then you should be agreeing with me, not arguing with me. sigh There is only 1 red socket, you either use LL or re-chrome your chest to change a green to a red. Now what you suggest is that I should re-chrome my chest every time I want to do a reflect map or uber general...instead of dropping wed which works perfectly fine. So no I don't agree with you. O.o it sounds like something is wrong with your spec, or you aren't understand my PoV very well. never did i ever remotely suggest that you "rechrome every time"	Posted by Veruski on Jul 9, 2014, 3:57:03 PM Quote this Post
.double Last edited by Veruski on Jul 9, 2014, 3:57:16 PM	Posted by Veruski on Jul 9, 2014, 3:57:08 PM Quote this Post
" Veruski wrote: O.o it sounds like something is wrong with your spec, or you aren't understand my PoV very well. never did i ever remotely suggest that you "rechrome every time" Nothing wrong with my build, I simply don't have a 500+ pDPS dagger and as such need more leech than I get for reflect maps. I don't insta kill my self or anything but it's borderline. Re-chroming to always have LL results in a massive DPS loss for everything, taking WED out only drops DPS in reflect maps. In game contact @MajorAsshole Challenge T-Shirt: 4/6 \| Full Challenge Totems: 21/27	Posted by Redblade on Jul 9, 2014, 4:02:09 PM Quote this Post
Hi I made your build a bit better, ditch the ranger start for a power charge- http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAADH0OSA_EEHsQfxEvEZYXLxmKGdcajxzcHRQdqiSwKPorCiycLR8tgy2oL287fDvhPI5Eq0ZxRwZMs1AwVa5V1lYtVvVXyVnzXIpe-l9qY0Nk52aebRlvnnBScFZwu3DVe9d943_GgKSDCYbRiEKIa49Gj6aP-pAbkn2TJ5cGl9CYb5mamhObtZ2joqOnCKcrrH-xkLQMtMW297fWuJO4yrk-vjrAGsBRwQDBxcHzwuzDOsSixp7KStkT2xrbWdte227b1OGI4vfjhOXP6rrrY-vu8uH1S_ba-tL7Cfyru-P-un11034WQIV9	Posted by Nirvz on Jul 9, 2014, 4:11:23 PM Quote this Post
" Flubby wrote: With rwgards to robustness: from what i have tested the phys leech while working just didnt feel the same as the elemental combo it is definetly working thats undisputed. Regarding that dps comparison: 6k es capped res, gmp, pcoc i or no charges (no flickercharge cheatin :)) full ele ref 78 clear full pref 78 clear vids ? :) i'm quite curious what would come out ahead since i kinda stopped min maxing ages ago. tbh from what i heard the values for phys seemed lower than i would have expected allthough its rough to compare due to the different gem setups and stil way more dps rhen remotely needed for endgame here are 3 videos i made when i was testing reflect maps penta reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qb0C44XFHE triple reflect with tc and chilled ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0_DEVLwsk phys vun reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oJofVsShy8 this are some extrem maps no normal person would make these this is just a example that you can even do these WITHOUT a lifeleech gem meaning lifeleech gem in my opinion is a complete waist cause what do you wanna do more then quad reflect? this is made with 100% perfect gear and acuitys though Every Class 100 Discord Alex22#8812 if u cant catch me online in Poe	Posted by Fyndel on Jul 9, 2014, 4:11:51 PM Quote this Post
" " Flubby wrote: With rwgards to robustness: from what i have tested the phys leech while working just didnt feel the same as the elemental combo it is definetly working thats undisputed. Regarding that dps comparison: 6k es capped res, gmp, pcoc i or no charges (no flickercharge cheatin :)) full ele ref 78 clear full pref 78 clear vids ? :) i'm quite curious what would come out ahead since i kinda stopped min maxing ages ago. tbh from what i heard the values for phys seemed lower than i would have expected allthough its rough to compare due to the different gem setups and stil way more dps rhen remotely needed for endgame here are 3 videos i made when i was testing reflect maps penta reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qb0C44XFHE triple reflect with tc and chilled ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0_DEVLwsk phys vun reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oJofVsShy8 this are some extrem maps no normal person would make these this is just a example that you can even do these WITHOUT a lifeleech gem meaning lifeleech gem in my opinion is a complete waist cause what do you wanna do more then quad reflect? this is made with 100% perfect gear and acuitys though this is my phys dagger: i am 100% fine on -max res + reflect, so you don't even need perfect gear for LL gem to be a waste. you just need DECENT gear for LL gem to be a waste (well, you need Acuity, but it's dropped a lot in price) Last edited by Veruski on Jul 9, 2014, 4:20:49 PM	Posted by Veruski on Jul 9, 2014, 4:15:50 PM Quote this Post
edit:got it Every Class 100 Discord Alex22#8812 if u cant catch me online in Poe Last edited by Fyndel on Jul 9, 2014, 5:07:16 PM	Posted by Fyndel on Jul 9, 2014, 4:27:34 PM Quote this Post
" Nirvz wrote: Hi I made your build a bit better, ditch the ranger start for a power charge- http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAADH0OSA_EEHsQfxEvEZYXLxmKGdcajxzcHRQdqiSwKPorCiycLR8tgy2oL287fDvhPI5Eq0ZxRwZMs1AwVa5V1lYtVvVXyVnzXIpe-l9qY0Nk52aebRlvnnBScFZwu3DVe9d943_GgKSDCYbRiEKIa49Gj6aP-pAbkn2TJ5cGl9CYb5mamhObtZ2joqOnCKcrrH-xkLQMtMW297fWuJO4yrk-vjrAGsBRwQDBxcHzwuzDOsSixp7KStkT2xrbWdte227b1OGI4vfjhOXP6rrrY-vu8uH1S_ba-tL7Cfyru-P-un11034WQIV9 The build Flubby's posted is the best you can do as a Scion, you're getting an additionnal Power Charge, that's great but Flubby is already at 95.13 crit chance (capped at 95%), so you're basically getting 4%spell dmg and that's it :s As for getting Finesse that's 4 rather inefficient points whereas the Ranger's start is very strong. As for the need for Life Leech when having a high pDPS dagger I feel like it's like the over/under argument, going nowhere. Just use whatever you prefer/feel like is safer, that's it. Last edited by Haboryme on Jul 9, 2014, 5:08:59 PM	Posted by Haboryme on Jul 9, 2014, 5:07:57 PM Quote this Post
made a video showing what dagger does more dmg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e77lKZEucQ Every Class 100 Discord Alex22#8812 if u cant catch me online in Poe	Posted by Fyndel on Jul 9, 2014, 6:01:23 PM Quote this Post