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Veruski wrote:
if you can't do reflect maps without LL gem, then you should always have LL gem on (imo).

single reflect will never be a problem! just some extra safety in case we met double reflect (+cannot die aura)...
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Redblade wrote:
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Veruski wrote:
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Redblade wrote:
Sure champ I'll make sure to do that once you provide me with a few thousand chromes...


if chromatics are the only thing stopping you from using a superior setup, then you should be agreeing with me, not arguing with me.


*sigh*

There is only 1 red socket, you either use LL or re-chrome your chest to change a green to a red. Now what you suggest is that I should re-chrome my chest every time I want to do a reflect map or uber general...instead of dropping wed which works perfectly fine.

So no I don't agree with you.


O.o

it sounds like something is wrong with your spec, or you aren't understand my PoV very well.

never did i ever remotely suggest that you "rechrome every time"
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Last edited by Veruski#5480 on Jul 9, 2014, 3:57:16 PM
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Veruski wrote:


O.o

it sounds like something is wrong with your spec, or you aren't understand my PoV very well.

never did i ever remotely suggest that you "rechrome every time"


Nothing wrong with my build, I simply don't have a 500+ pDPS dagger and as such need more leech than I get for reflect maps. I don't insta kill my self or anything but it's borderline.

Re-chroming to always have LL results in a massive DPS loss for everything, taking WED out only drops DPS in reflect maps.
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Hi I made your build a bit better, ditch the ranger start for a power charge- http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAADH0OSA_EEHsQfxEvEZYXLxmKGdcajxzcHRQdqiSwKPorCiycLR8tgy2oL287fDvhPI5Eq0ZxRwZMs1AwVa5V1lYtVvVXyVnzXIpe-l9qY0Nk52aebRlvnnBScFZwu3DVe9d943_GgKSDCYbRiEKIa49Gj6aP-pAbkn2TJ5cGl9CYb5mamhObtZ2joqOnCKcrrH-xkLQMtMW297fWuJO4yrk-vjrAGsBRwQDBxcHzwuzDOsSixp7KStkT2xrbWdte227b1OGI4vfjhOXP6rrrY-vu8uH1S_ba-tL7Cfyru-P-un11034WQIV9
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Flubby wrote:
With rwgards to robustness: from what i have tested the phys leech while working just didnt feel the same as the elemental combo it is definetly working thats undisputed. Regarding that dps comparison: 6k es capped res, gmp, pcoc i or no charges (no flickercharge cheatin :)) full ele ref 78 clear full pref 78 clear vids ? :) i'm quite curious what would come out ahead since i kinda stopped min maxing ages ago. tbh from what i heard the values for phys seemed lower than i would have expected allthough its rough to compare due to the different gem setups and stil way more dps rhen remotely needed for endgame
here are 3 videos i made when i was testing reflect maps

penta reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qb0C44XFHE
triple reflect with tc and chilled ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0_DEVLwsk
phys vun reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oJofVsShy8

this are some extrem maps no normal person would make these this is just a example that you can even do these WITHOUT a lifeleech gem meaning lifeleech gem in my opinion is a complete waist cause what do you wanna do more then quad reflect? this is made with 100% perfect gear and acuitys though
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Alexlulz wrote:
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Flubby wrote:
With rwgards to robustness: from what i have tested the phys leech while working just didnt feel the same as the elemental combo it is definetly working thats undisputed. Regarding that dps comparison: 6k es capped res, gmp, pcoc i or no charges (no flickercharge cheatin :)) full ele ref 78 clear full pref 78 clear vids ? :) i'm quite curious what would come out ahead since i kinda stopped min maxing ages ago. tbh from what i heard the values for phys seemed lower than i would have expected allthough its rough to compare due to the different gem setups and stil way more dps rhen remotely needed for endgame
here are 3 videos i made when i was testing reflect maps

penta reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qb0C44XFHE
triple reflect with tc and chilled ground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0_DEVLwsk
phys vun reflect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oJofVsShy8

this are some extrem maps no normal person would make these this is just a example that you can even do these WITHOUT a lifeleech gem meaning lifeleech gem in my opinion is a complete waist cause what do you wanna do more then quad reflect? this is made with 100% perfect gear and acuitys though


this is my phys dagger:



i am 100% fine on -max res + reflect, so you don't even need perfect gear for LL gem to be a waste.

you just need DECENT gear for LL gem to be a waste (well, you need Acuity, but it's dropped a lot in price)
Last edited by Veruski#5480 on Jul 9, 2014, 4:20:49 PM
edit:got it
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Last edited by Fyndel#2106 on Jul 9, 2014, 5:07:16 PM
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Nirvz wrote:
Hi I made your build a bit better, ditch the ranger start for a power charge- http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAADH0OSA_EEHsQfxEvEZYXLxmKGdcajxzcHRQdqiSwKPorCiycLR8tgy2oL287fDvhPI5Eq0ZxRwZMs1AwVa5V1lYtVvVXyVnzXIpe-l9qY0Nk52aebRlvnnBScFZwu3DVe9d943_GgKSDCYbRiEKIa49Gj6aP-pAbkn2TJ5cGl9CYb5mamhObtZ2joqOnCKcrrH-xkLQMtMW297fWuJO4yrk-vjrAGsBRwQDBxcHzwuzDOsSixp7KStkT2xrbWdte227b1OGI4vfjhOXP6rrrY-vu8uH1S_ba-tL7Cfyru-P-un11034WQIV9


The build Flubby's posted is the best you can do as a Scion, you're getting an additionnal Power Charge, that's great but Flubby is already at 95.13 crit chance (capped at 95%), so you're basically getting 4%spell dmg and that's it :s
As for getting Finesse that's 4 rather inefficient points whereas the Ranger's start is very strong.






As for the need for Life Leech when having a high pDPS dagger I feel like it's like the over/under argument, going nowhere.
Just use whatever you prefer/feel like is safer, that's it.



Last edited by Haboryme#1915 on Jul 9, 2014, 5:08:59 PM
made a video showing what dagger does more dmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e77lKZEucQ
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