ELE LIGHTNING STRIKE - ALL T16s, Shaper, Uber Atziri, HOGM, Chayula, Elder

That must be a part time job. With the numbers of posts you answer, seems like this is your full time job. Too bad it doesn't pay much----but we all appreciate it.

Hehe thanks, I just try and answer people's questions in the mornings before I leave or when I get home at night.

How you guys finding the new expansion? Thought this would be something I can look forward to at the end of long day but this pet thing is just not exciting me. =(.

Does the phys version play the same way? (IE, do you need to attack from range, or does it change?)

Just curious since you posted that phys alternate build.

I guess what I mean is... once you trigger the bleed, can you range with the phys version, or do you need to be in melee range? POB numbers don't reflect exactly how the damage works in that sense, so, wanted to get a good idea.

Also - could we use this new unique instead of puncture?



Thanks!

Hi dude, first of all ty for the build, this is my first time trying LS, and as a starter build.

I'm playing LS as a Pathfinder, no problem here, but on what type of weapon to use i'm still not sure, bc i don't understand well the differences on elemental build and pdamage conversion build (maybe its the same, dont know ahah)
In ur regular build you use a dagger with flat lightning damage but if LS converts 50% of pdamage to lightning, doesn't is better to play with pdps weapon for the conversion and the use of physical to lightning gem?

I'm asking this bc as i said, i want to learn how to choose the weapon to play, currently playing with foils.

Did you address how to mitigate elemental reflect somewhere?

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hicnon wrote:

I'm playing LS as a Pathfinder, no problem here, but on what type of weapon to use i'm still not sure, bc i don't understand well the differences on elemental build and pdamage conversion build (maybe its the same, dont know ahah)
In ur regular build you use a dagger with flat lightning damage but if LS converts 50% of pdamage to lightning, doesn't is better to play with pdps weapon for the conversion and the use of physical to lightning gem?

Your just confusing when the conversion is done. Lightning strike will convert 50% of the physical damage done to lightning. It doesn't convert 50% of your weapons base physical damage to lightning and then apply all increases.

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I'm asking this bc as i said, i want to learn how to choose the weapon to play, currently playing with foils.

You can play swords, claws or daggers. Just need to change the tree for each one. Use PoB to change the nods around and look for sword nodes and one handed melee nodes. Like his guide mentions, you want a T1 lightning roll, a good crit and attack speed roll. You can get those in almost any weapon form pretty cheap. If you want all 3 to be T1 rolls and add crit multiplier then it gets expensive.

Just a few thoughts while I leveled with this build and the leveling guide you posted:

I bought crest of perandus, ungils, briskwrap and wake of destruction, still using all of them except the dagger at 51 atm. They are great uniques to level with, but as you said, you want to replace the dagger with a random rare with decent stats around lvl 40 ish to keep up in damage. With a random bad tier light/crit multi dagger I'm at 5k tooltip dps atm.

The dps is kinda crazy but this has as downside that you can forget about capturing beasts until they add the dead beast net thingy - lost a few legendary beasts because you just onehit them by accident :/

Survivability is fine.. although my resists are problematic and I died a few times on fire dmg bosses (-15% hurts), life is really good for a leveling build, I think you can priotize dps nodes a bit more while leveling.

Also you mentioned the multistrike/mana thing - I had a lot of mana problems (chugging mana like crazy) before multistrike but once I added multistrike, all mana issues actually disappeared. I would really recommend grabbing an elreon ring for leveling until 38 when you can use multistrike.

I'm lvl 52 and I have 4.8k dps with wrath, HoT, lightning golem. I can't one-shot white mobs, let alone rare mobs. Just made it to act 7. I tried putting a lightning dmg dagger into PoB but my dps didn't get better. Got any suggestions for my gear or tree? My character is set to public (LightningStrikesTwiceee).

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wakasm wrote:

Does the phys version play the same way? (IE, do you need to attack from range, or does it change?)

Just curious since you posted that phys alternate build.

I guess what I mean is... once you trigger the bleed, can you range with the phys version, or do you need to be in melee range? POB numbers don't reflect exactly how the damage works in that sense, so, wanted to get a good idea.

Hi bud that build is for the melee hit as I outline - the main damage scaling is coming from melee modifiers, as a result your projectile damage is not going to be that high so you won't be getting that great returns playing range on that version.

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hicnon wrote:

Hi dude, first of all ty for the build, this is my first time trying LS, and as a starter build.

I'm playing LS as a Pathfinder, no problem here, but on what type of weapon to use i'm still not sure, bc i don't understand well the differences on elemental build and pdamage conversion build (maybe its the same, dont know ahah)
In ur regular build you use a dagger with flat lightning damage but if LS converts 50% of pdamage to lightning, doesn't is better to play with pdps weapon for the conversion and the use of physical to lightning gem?

I'm asking this bc as i said, i want to learn how to choose the weapon to play, currently playing with foils.

Thanks kan333 for the reply

hicnon weapon really varies - I prefer dagger because it can get higher crit, some people do claws for more leech/life gain. Sword can work too but won't be as high as dagger DPS (because of less crit).

Ok the difference between the two types is that this ele build is scaling flat lightning damage - by stacking lots of added lightning (on weapon, jewels, rings, aura). This is a good way to get the damage of LS projectiles very high. A phys version will rely more on a good phys weapon and phys modifiers, and yes then you can do conversions that add extra ele damage as a % of your phys.

For such an ele build you are just using the skill as a mechanic to deliver all the lightning damage you are building. You can swap LS for frostblades or ST on this build for example and it will still work well. You can even build flat cold or flat fire (or mix) instead of flat lightning and use LS and it will still work.

Anyway, long story short:

If you want to use the LS projectiles - I find building flat ele is the cheapest and more efficient way

If you want to use the melee LS hit more - you can still use flat ele, but it is more efficient to use phys dagger - how high your DPS goes will mostly depend on how good your phys dagger is

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Frenchornsdad wrote:

Did you address how to mitigate elemental reflect somewhere?

Hi bud, it's a mortar projectile spell, I haven't had any issues with this. Are you having a lot of trouble? Apart from constantly moving or getting projectile avoidance/spell dodge (Thraxia, Voidwalker, Avatar of Veil) you can add Fortify?

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falagar112 wrote:

Just a few thoughts while I leveled with this build and the leveling guide you posted:

I bought crest of perandus, ungils, briskwrap and wake of destruction, still using all of them except the dagger at 51 atm. They are great uniques to level with, but as you said, you want to replace the dagger with a random rare with decent stats around lvl 40 ish to keep up in damage. With a random bad tier light/crit multi dagger I'm at 5k tooltip dps atm.

The dps is kinda crazy but this has as downside that you can forget about capturing beasts until they add the dead beast net thingy - lost a few legendary beasts because you just onehit them by accident :/

Survivability is fine.. although my resists are problematic and I died a few times on fire dmg bosses (-15% hurts), life is really good for a leveling build, I think you can priotize dps nodes a bit more while leveling.

Also you mentioned the multistrike/mana thing - I had a lot of mana problems (chugging mana like crazy) before multistrike but once I added multistrike, all mana issues actually disappeared. I would really recommend grabbing an elreon ring for leveling until 38 when you can use multistrike.

Falagar thanks for the awesome feedback. I will see what I can adjust in the leveling guide, I think you right I took too much HP for leveling vs. DPS, thanks.

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LadyLoriana wrote:

I'm lvl 52 and I have 4.8k dps with wrath, HoT, lightning golem. I can't one-shot white mobs, let alone rare mobs. Just made it to act 7. I tried putting a lightning dmg dagger into PoB but my dps didn't get better. Got any suggestions for my gear or tree? My character is set to public (LightningStrikesTwiceee).

Hiya, I think you need to start upgrading your links - have you tried Multistrike? You need to start getting some rings/amulet wiht some lighting damage if you can as well. I think Falagar is right that I may have put too much HP in the tree for leveling so I would start getting more of the DPS nodes and then shift to a dagger. Will take a better look when I get back home

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LadyLoriana wrote:

I'm lvl 52 and I have 4.8k dps with wrath, HoT, lightning golem. I can't one-shot white mobs, let alone rare mobs. Just made it to act 7. I tried putting a lightning dmg dagger into PoB but my dps didn't get better. Got any suggestions for my gear or tree? My character is set to public (LightningStrikesTwiceee).

If you want to play 2 hander lightning strike I would really suggest going scion raider+slayer and spec VP, but it's I think a more expensive build as league starter as without a lycosidae you'd have to add quite a bit of accuracy on gear as well. That said I don't have that shield yet myself. (but crest of perandus is 1 alch and amazing for leveling)

Your links are kinda not working though, I leveled with that 4 link myself and multistrike at 38 made all the difference. Switch to Lightning Strike+Weapon Ele Dmg+Added Light+Multistrike+(lightning pen) and it should make a big difference once your gem level catched up. Also means you can ditch the mana pot(s).

A little update from my side: 2.8k hp, close to 9k dps (got a 5 link and a nice dagger), resist capped when I can use my belt on 57 (56 atm) and game is really easy now. Got a gg dagger for 60, and about to do my cruel lab, will post another update later.

My profile is public btw so any of you feel free to check up on it.