Campaign Skipping

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nhull17#5978 wrote:

They wont even entertain this anymore, stop making these posts.. I cannot stress it enough THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

And the posts are never going to stop as people value their time even if you don't value yours.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3931391

Here's a nuanced take on the topic which fits with the game's design choice. Unlike the campaign which takes hours, reading my post would only take you 10 minutes.

Remember, it's a video game. Not a full time job. If you want to treat it like a full time job, nobody's going to stop you, but please don't "enforce" it on everyone else. After the campaign skip, you'll be free to play the campaign to your heart's content just like before.

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zintac2020#6481 wrote:

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TempestMind#6309 wrote:

I personally enjoy the lack of campaign skips. After the first playthough you can speed up your alt playthrough with leveling uniques and practice. I'm glad GGG remains firm on this aspect of the game.

And the vast majority of the playerbase hates the mandatory campaign hoops.

Data source: trust me bro.

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SalamiHaze#9389 wrote:

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zintac2020#6481 wrote:

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TempestMind#6309 wrote:

I personally enjoy the lack of campaign skips. After the first playthough you can speed up your alt playthrough with leveling uniques and practice. I'm glad GGG remains firm on this aspect of the game.

And the vast majority of the playerbase hates the mandatory campaign hoops.

Data source: trust me bro.

Yeah, I would love to have a poll but reddit will ban anyone to "doesn't toe the party line". GGG is free to implement a feature where they could just take a poll/feedback ingame from players on if they want a certain feature implemented. The data from option for ingame forums would be misleading as only a fraction of the playerbase even knows it exists. GGG has the data and they could release it to you if you ask them I suppose.

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zintac2020#6481 wrote:

Yeah, I would love to have a poll but reddit will ban anyone to "doesn't toe the party line".

Yeah, i would love you to speak for yourself instead of speaking for vast majority of community based on polls you would love to have.

I mean, if you don't enjoy the camping, why would you enjoy doing maps over and over again?

The campaign is excellent, imo, and I can't wait for the next two acts in 1.0

You think you want campaign skipping, but you really don't. I would much rather objectives to go along with my leveling. How else would you level? Just run around each zone until you are high enough for maps? The game gets boring MUCH faster than you think. Honestly, one of the reasons that Diablo 4 seasons get boring so fast is BECAUSE of campaign skips. It's even worse for D4 because you are literally are leveling with the endgame mechanics, so by the time you are max level, you are already bored of all the "endgame" content.

They are never going to make maps scale with your level, so the only option would be to just have all the zones unlocked. Then you just farm each zone and then move to the next and the next. You would spend just as much time in the same zones as the campaign but with no challenges or objectives. It WOULD be more boring. Slogging through the campaign on alts makes getting to the endgame so much more rewarding.

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SplitOpenNBill#8385 wrote:

You think you want campaign skipping, but you really don't. I would much rather objectives to go along with my leveling. How else would you level? Just run around each zone until you are high enough for maps? The game gets boring MUCH faster than you think. Honestly, one of the reasons that Diablo 4 seasons get boring so fast is BECAUSE of campaign skips. It's even worse for D4 because you are literally are leveling with the endgame mechanics, so by the time you are max level, you are already bored of all the "endgame" content.

They are never going to make maps scale with your level, so the only option would be to just have all the zones unlocked. Then you just farm each zone and then move to the next and the next. You would spend just as much time in the same zones as the campaign but with no challenges or objectives. It WOULD be more boring. Slogging through the campaign on alts makes getting to the endgame so much more rewarding.

Did you know you DONT have to do any alternate leveling if you dont want to? Did you know you can run the campaign over and over as many times as you want?

How would we level in an OPTIONAL alternate leveling path?

Level scaling way stones that go up to 60 then you have to do normal waystones so end game is the same

Maybe some sort of "cow level" where you go in and just have fun killing monsters and not having to click water levers for the 20th time or move the caravan to get off to talk to get back on to move it to blow a horn to get off to talk to someone to get back on again.

"They are never going to make maps scale with your level" Already in game. Act 2, Act 4, and league mechanics have entered the chat.

It WOULD be boring TO YOU. But wait! This is optional! Meaning, you DONT have to do it. However, those who cant stand the campaign and dont want to have to do it EVERY character are simply asking for an OPTIONAL alternate leveling path to open after first completion of campaign each league. This ensures everyone starts the same and end game is the same.

You brought up D4 and complained about the skip but still used it... why? If you like the campaign so much and think it is so good it should be FORCED on everyone with EVERY character... why did you not run it when you had the option to dungeon level in that game?

"Slogging through the campaign on alts makes getting to the endgame so much more rewarding" <---- LOL WHAT

You are even acknowledging its a slog but still want it forced on everyone for every character. These campaign purists legit don't make sense.

The only real defense they have to it is the "No I dont like it" or "Because I said so" type responses.

I think that giving the player options is good. When it comes to campaign skips, I am fine with it as long as it isn't the most optimal thing to do. It could be just like D4 in the sense that you just do activities ad nauseum to get to the correct level to do maps. If there were to be a campaign skip I would just ask that it be different than anything else in the game for variety sake. There is a very strong opinion against this even being a thing, but I would ask those people to think about player agency and options through out the game (ex: picking the map you want, unlocking the skills when you want, etc...). Game is good as is for being early access and I don't care either way about a campaign skip. I just think having the option no matter how good or bad that option is would be nice.

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zintac2020#6481 wrote:

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TempestMind#6309 wrote:

I personally enjoy the lack of campaign skips. After the first playthough you can speed up your alt playthrough with leveling uniques and practice. I'm glad GGG remains firm on this aspect of the game.

And the vast majority of the playerbase hates the mandatory campaign hoops.

The problem is that for campaign enjoyers such as yourself, you can always spend more time to play the campaign. Nobody's stopping you. But for people who have a life, it's hard to justify spending 6-8 hours AGAIN for nothing.


https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3931391

I've made a post with a nuanced take on the subject if you care to read it. A 10 minute read shouldn't be a problem for campaign spammers such as yourself who spend hours doing the same exact thing over and over again.

i've uninstalled the game - and the idea of reinstalling just to play through the campaign AGAIN so that all the effort I put into the game is gone in 3 months anyway is just ridiculous to me.

i doubt i'll do it - even for this "super patch" - because the idea of leagues and redoing content is so incredibly stupid.

This game has hype - but just like PoE the sane people with a life will eventually figure this out too (most people are really slow at realizing the obvious), and the game will fade to obscurity, like PoE1 did.

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Leo_NZ#5242 wrote:

Hello GGG, first of all thank you for your contributions to gaming! I began playing PoE2 in the Early Access Launch and this is by far my favourite game at the moment. I’d like to raise a suggestion (that has probably been raised before) around Campaign skipping. I understand that the league start requires all players to play through the campaign in full as a means to give everyone fair grounds, but my question is this. Upon completion of first playthrough (finishing 3 interludes and arriving in the Ziggurat Refuge, can it trigger a state in which any character moving forward can campaign skip? This would be an amazing QoL feature. To be clear I do NOT want campaign skipping for First playthrough on league launches but I don’t understand why we couldn’t after completion of first playthrough. I think this would encourage many players to multiple play throughs with different classes were this to be implemented. With that being said, I LOVE this game and hope that we continue to see success over the coming years, cheers!

First of all...

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campaign skip

What do you mean by that.

Second.

If you want to directly join an area like Atziri Temple and therefore not only skip the campaign but also bypass every leveling process and going directly from level 1 to 100 without ever moving one finger besides following guys which level your character.

NO!

If you want to not have to go certain areas anymore and be able to freely move the areas but still be bound to level in them. OK


And last.
For Standard I would love to see that. Not League, but standard and maybe SSF, cause there is no player based economy and the problem of botting or other forms of cheating to it and the potential boosting of RMT transactions is not that urgent or available.