was the league delayed because of d4

d4 launched on april 27 around the same time as poe2 meant to launch...did the devs delayed it because they dont want to compete with d4? could be a coincidence i guess but i find it kind of odd. wouldn't surprise me if the poe2 league was ready to go last month they just didnt want people having to choose which game to play/stream

PoE 2 is meant to target a more casual playerbase, so sure, that was probably a factor too.

But also the fact they need more time to work on finishing things, like the new endgame.

You have it backwards, Diablo 4 is aimed at the casuals poe1/2 is more the hardcore nutters.
Casuals will drop out of POE before they get to 90 that's for sure.

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muppettest#6063 wrote:

Casuals will drop out of POE-2 before they get to 70 that's for sure.

Fixed a little.

I seriously doubt Poe2 has anything to worry about D4, have you played that game? Its better than what they previously had BUT warplans are their big End Game content. Its so simple compared to Poe2, its not even in the same stratospere.

To me D4 is the value menu item that anyone can get, play, and understand. Poe2 is for people that want the Full Buffett Menu and want it all, with all the options you could want. I play them both but Im looking more forward to Poe2 way more than D4 at this point.

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FreshMeat93#0508 wrote:

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muppettest#6063 wrote:

Casuals will drop out of POE-2 before they get to 70 that's for sure.

Fixed a little.

nah, he was right w/ 90. The game is so easy now w/ certain builds/guides and w/ all the creep to player power and the mob nerfs. Maybe back in 0.2 you could still say 70 and that might be too generous.

i expected something way different for the endgame overhaul, not... this.

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Hellzwraith#0237 wrote:

I seriously doubt Poe2 has anything to worry about D4, have you played that game? Its better than what they previously had BUT warplans are their big End Game content. Its so simple compared to Poe2, its not even in the same stratospere.

To me D4 is the value menu item that anyone can get, play, and understand. Poe2 is for people that want the Full Buffett Menu and want it all, with all the options you could want. I play them both but Im looking more forward to Poe2 way more than D4 at this point.

you might not like the game but all the popular poe streamers were and most still are streaming it on a daily basis. these streamers is what GGG cares about

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

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Hellzwraith#0237 wrote:

I seriously doubt Poe2 has anything to worry about D4, have you played that game? Its better than what they previously had BUT warplans are their big End Game content. Its so simple compared to Poe2, its not even in the same stratospere.

To me D4 is the value menu item that anyone can get, play, and understand. Poe2 is for people that want the Full Buffett Menu and want it all, with all the options you could want. I play them both but Im looking more forward to Poe2 way more than D4 at this point.

you might not like the game but all the popular poe streamers were and most still are streaming it on a daily basis. these streamers is what GGG cares about

Not really, they care about getting money through micro...If you don't buy anything from the shop, then they know they f.... with the season.

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Hellzwraith#0237 wrote:

I seriously doubt Poe2 has anything to worry about D4, have you played that game? Its better than what they previously had BUT warplans are their big End Game content. Its so simple compared to Poe2, its not even in the same stratospere.

To me D4 is the value menu item that anyone can get, play, and understand. Poe2 is for people that want the Full Buffett Menu and want it all, with all the options you could want. I play them both but Im looking more forward to Poe2 way more than D4 at this point.

D4 has deep character customization, D4 plot and cutscenes aren't even in the same stratosphere, D4 has no exp penalty, no shared loot (party abuse), no scam trade, hence no progression blockers "just because".

Poe2 hasn't yet imported more creative content types from poe1, like Blight, Heist, or that totem board game. In the essence, both D4 and poe2 extra events boil down to "spawn some extra mobs". Meaning same stratosphere.

Both D4 and poe2 have combat balance issues, but D4 isn't kicking you in the face with exp penalty for RNG oneshot you couldn't have known about and reacted to.

D4 isn't dragging you though immense grind loops to repeat a boss fight.

If by "simple" you mean poe2 buildcraft being impossible without POB to show these sweet "maximum hit" numbers, that is hardly an advantage. If your game needs full ecosystem of software to be comfortable, from loot filters to trade agents, you're shit gamedesigner.

in a recent interview Johnathon mentioned they don't plan leagues around other releases. He said they might consider GTA6 release though