POE2 Spells are WAAAAY too superior compared to attack.

Obviously I'm a melee player.

I've been playing melee alot since POE1.

My melee in POE2 is now level 91 and yes I'm using Armor Life. I'm playing both QS and Spear Melee as WitchHunter.

I'm currently trying out Spells caster, along with a side of Crossbow in SSF and damn, Good Spells weapon are waaaaay easier to obtain.

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Gogolitsa#6869 wrote:

60%-80% of players choose spells over melee and Crossbow/Bow. Literately makes the difference. Afterall it's an ES based game... isn't it?

It's just a matter of which skill/ascendancies are stronger at the moment. We had a league where Shattering Palm was one of the best skills, and it's an attack. Lightning Arrow was one of the top skills for such a long time it became a meme, Lightning Spear was the best skill on 0.2 and it's an attack, etc

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Spells, unlike attack, have their base damage scales of gem level, which is so much more powerful and cheaper too attain.

I don't know what the op means by this though. It's 1) not correct and 2) needing + gem on gear isn't cheaper

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Exilion99#5481 wrote:

That being said, ATTACKS STILL NEED ACCURACY!, yet another reason why attack are very much inferior.

I have 1 passive point for accuracy. I often can get away with one spirit support gem. I never look for accuracy on gear. The only classes that need accuracy are ranged classes, and 98% all of their accuracy comes from dex. The only time I ever need accuracy is against evasive monsters.

I don't know what you're doing that's different from me, but every attack class has been way easier to gear than my sorc for damage. The difficulty for attack classes has always been defenses. It's the exact opposite situation compared to sorc.

On sorc, damage is incredibly difficult to gear for damage and defense is easy. Precisely because of +spells levels is SO important. It come on 3 slots on rare gear, and it has the lowest chance of rolling. Like spark was utter trash until I got choir of storm. (Even with +5 on staff, and +2 on focus). Like garbage tier. Even with my current gear, it still can't clear 6 mod t15 as well as my Lightning spear Pathfinder.

I don't know what you're doing, but we have very different experiences.

Accuracy rolls as the split prefix affix on weapons anyways.


And its only needed if you want like a far aoe melee attack.



Accuracy was fixed awhile ago as a requirement so they are def doing something wrong on their end thinking they need all this accuracy.



I dont, and I play melee.

In the current state of the game, Sorceress is not the best Sorcerer after all. It's actually the oracle druid by far.

It still works, but it's not as good.

I agree, actually the hardest part about gearing for a spell caster, is all of the loose ends.

-You need to max resistances to not get 1 shot,
-Unless you get Chaos inoculation, you also need chaos resist
-You need max Shield % boosts + 2 other shield regen stats
-You need mana and mana regen so you can cast,
-You need cast speed to increase DPS,
-Those +lvl mods are basically essential in endgame,
-If you get Choir of the storm, you lose the potential gains of an Amulet.

All of these issues can only be solved by 1 thing... 1 BILLION Divines! muahahaha

IME the god of the Chaos realm is not even a Chaos Witch, It's the Smith Warrior

We can't really expect the same gameplay experience for each class though, they are very different. In Endgame if things are too overpowered regardless of how rare or how much the items cost, it should be nerfed I think.

The game becomes like an Indie ARPG top down game once you reach max level, like Vampire Survivors or Halls of Torment. It doesn't need to become that insane and out of touch with the intended gameplay.

It's kind of funny and I'm sure it's satisfying to wipe the map clean like a windshield wiper.

It has just gone too far.

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iHiems#0168 wrote:

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Spells, unlike attack, have their base damage scales of gem level, which is so much more powerful and cheaper too attain.

I don't know what the op means by this though. It's 1) not correct and 2) needing + gem on gear isn't cheaper

You are wrong. It is correct since POE1. Spells base damage are literally INSIDE the skill gem that greatly scaled by gem level.

Needing +5 gem Staffs are as easy to get +5 on Quarterstaffs, in which, +5 gem for spells are significantly better than for attack. They are as cheap as a Perfect Essence.

Getting +7 is as hard as both with attacks or spells, which again, significantly better for spells. +6/7 spells are more expensive because it's literally the end goal chase item where MAJORITY of people playing spells. Supply and Demand issue, not difficulty of obtaining them.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Accuracy rolls as the split prefix affix on weapons anyways.

You literally are saying it. Accuracy yet again rolls on freaking prefix. Not only spells have no issue of hitting, Attack once again have to roll against Accuracy Mod in freaking valuable prefix slot.

And you are wrong. Accuracy is important to all attacks.

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Exilion99#5481 wrote:

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iHiems#0168 wrote:

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Spells, unlike attack, have their base damage scales of gem level, which is so much more powerful and cheaper too attain.

I don't know what the op means by this though. It's 1) not correct and 2) needing + gem on gear isn't cheaper

You are wrong. It is correct since POE1. Spells base damage are literally INSIDE the skill gem that greatly scaled by gem level.

Needing +5 gem Staffs are as easy to get +5 on Quarterstaffs, in which, +5 gem for spells are significantly better than for attack. They are as cheap as a Perfect Essence.

Getting +7 is as hard as both with attacks or spells, which again, significantly better for spells. +6/7 spells are more expensive because it's literally the end goal chase item where MAJORITY of people playing spells. Supply and Demand issue, not difficulty of obtaining them.

I don't understand. What attack skill are you taking for reference to say that + level to skill on gear isn't something someone playing attack cares about? Every attack weapon is auto trash without + melee/attack/projectile level, save some fringe builds, it's not something exclusive to spells

Yea OP doesn’t know how build or buy it seems


+6 and 7 melee skills weapons don’t even exist for the most part whereas 6 and 7 staves are all over the place

Extremely more affordable to buy spell +6 or 7 versus even attempting to get +6 or 7 melee weapons



Reason being is crafting for melee weapons are much more difficult to land the rolls than staves. You’ll end up with terrible prefixes when you want triple prefix phys. Or you’ll get an element or element % you don’t want


Melee weapons are relegated to +5 attack skills.



OP you don’t need accuracy lol

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Exilion99#5481 wrote:

Needing +5 gem Staffs are as easy to get +5 on Quarterstaffs, in which, +5 gem for spells are significantly better than for attack.

https://www.craftofexile.com/?game=poe2&b=25&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=19&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}&gvc={%22limit%22:88}&gns={}

It's the second hardest suffix to roll. I'm not sure what you mean by easy?

It's less than 3% to get ANY two handed +skill levels. Getting +5-6 melee is 0.2% (+7 is 0.08%).

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Exilion99#5481 wrote:

Accuracy is important to all attacks.

You don't need any accuracy for mobs in melee range.

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Accuracy

I don't have a single slot of gear with accuracy: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/darrenrob82-3531/character/Buevax

The only class I've actively looked for accuracy was Amazon. And only because they have a passive that gives physical damage for having accuracy.