AI will kill PoE and all related online games that have trade
" Because one of the main pillars of PoE is an "open, free market built on a fluctuation, player-driven economy" - and MOST players chooses to - and wants to - play trade league, because it offers them the opportunity to trade for the items they want. Adding more and more account bound items would (of course) work against this design. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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SSF will save PoE.
Last edited by scottslayer#6428 on Feb 24, 2026, 2:58:32 PM
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I have never understood why the API was/is public.
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
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AI topic is interesting however I doubt it'll be that bad because of the fact that stash space costs something. If stash space was completely free I could see a world that AI trade bots mess up the economy for one league. Even than a solution to the problem would be found fairly fast imo so I really doubt it something to spend too much time worrying about.
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" You're just one of the many posters who have no idea what they're talking about. Just for your info - this game has died at least once a week for the last 10 years or so, according to doomsayers like you. Trading is a decision you make. SSF is always an option as well. |
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please don't use the word agentic it just encourages the parasites.
That aside I think you should simultaneously care a great deal and not care at all depending on who you represent as a player. Heavy traders are going to find that AI squeezes the margins on everything over time and arbitrage becomes less and less valuable. If you compete with bots in your trading strat its going to get progressively worse, you'll have to specialise or accept less. If you don't trade for value you largely won't care, especially if you are above the average trader in terms of currency progression this is because compacted prices will give you more purchase power and fundamentally bots still have to sell to players. Lastly I don't know how much effort bot makers will actually put into this beyond the current scalp into RMT shenanigans due to GGG's ability to cripple them instantaneously. Not saying this is likely but they could literally bind boss drops on kill for example and it'd take the entire market out - very major change for the game to be sure but also well within their capabilities. They are tolerated currently due to being too much effort/reward to deal with. That isn't the same as not having a solution or not being able to formulate a response if actually required. |
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Now if we talk about AI killing gaming in general that I can believe because nobody will have money to spend on gaming because AI will take all our jobs. That is just an eventuality of the beast. Something to be much more worried about than trade bots.
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" Oh another expert, so same question: where is an AI bot be better than a usual already in-use bot? Again, I do know a little bit about ML so just go as deep as you like. To specify, I talk about the technical perspective. Because the OP (and you) are just making claims without supplying any facts concerning those so called AI agents. Current Build: Penance Brand
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I mean... eventually all online multiplayer gaming with any form of grind will be dominated by bots/ai that gradually will be better and better at pretending to be a real player. It is unavoidable. However it will take some time before it becomes completely undetectable. Even longer until physical robots are playing for their owner. At that point there is no point to fight it anymore.
As for AI vs generic bot. Well the AI would eventually be better at disguising itself as human. It would only make sense if the bot detection and consequences makes the cost of maintaining them higher than the cost of running an AI pretending to be human. That might take a very long time. Last edited by arknath#4740 on Feb 25, 2026, 12:16:30 PM
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In keeping with the OP's intent, here's some other ridiculous predictions from history.
Cars will stop being popular … In 1903, the president of Michigan Savings Bank warned Henry Ford’s lawyer, Horace Rackham, to protect his money. “The horse is here to stay, but the automobile is only a novelty, a fad,” he advised. If you’ve ever been stuck trying to get out of a parking lot after a sporting event, you may have wished he’d gotten this one right. … and our brains won’t be able to keep up with them In 1904, the New York Times reported on a debate in Paris between a brain specialist and a physician about the dangers of driving automobiles at high speeds—because the brain can’t keep up. “It remains to be proved how fast the brain is capable of traveling,” reads the article. “If it cannot acquire an eight-mile per hour speed, then an auto running at the rate of 80 miles per hour is running without the guidance of the brain, and the many disastrous results are not to be marveled at.” Everything will be made of steel Thomas Edison may have invented the light bulb, but he couldn’t be right all the time: In an interview with the Miami Metropolis in 1911, he went all in on America’s booming steel industry, predicting, “The baby of the 21st century will be rocked in a steel cradle; his father will sit in a steel chair at a steel dining table, and his mother’s boudoir will be sumptuously equipped with steel furnishings, converted by cunning varnishes to the semblance of rosewood, or mahogany, or any other wood her ladyship fancies.” Recorded music will destroy all musical ability In 1906, composer John Philip Sousa warned the world about “The Menace of Mechanical Music” in an article attacking machines that brought symphonies into people’s homes. He bemoaned the fact that fewer and fewer cheap lutes were being purchased, “all because the automatic music devices are usurping their places.” Electricity will flicker out of fashion So said Junius Morgan to his son J.P. Morgan. J.P. had hired Thomas Edison to wire up his mansion, making it the first private residence in New York to have electric lighting. Luckily for his bank account, J.P. Morgan didn’t listen to his dad and invested heavily in Edison, eventually financing General Electric. All women will be giants In 1950, Associated Press writer Dorothy Roe used what she called “scientific evidence” to predict that by the year 2000, all women would be 6 feet tall. “Her proportions will be perfect, though Amazonian, because science will have perfected a balanced ratio of vitamins, proteins and minerals that will produce the maximum bodily efficiency, the minimum of fat,” she wrote. Women are taller on average nowadays, so Roe’s prediction wasn’t totally off. Cleaning the house will require only a hose Waldemar Kaempffert, the science editor of the New York Times, wrote in 1950 of “Miracles You’ll See in the Next Fifty Years.” One of those miracles involved housekeeping. Kaempffert described the life and chores of a future housewife he named Jane Dobson as such: “When Jane Dobson cleans house, she simply turns the hose on everything. Why not? Furniture (upholstery included), rugs, draperies, unscratchable floors—all are made of synthetic fabric or waterproof plastic. After the water has run down a drain in the middle of the floor (later concealed by a rug of synthetic fiber), Jane turns on a blast of hot air and dries everything.” We’re all going to live forever-ish A friend of Winston Churchill, high-powered lawyer F.E. Smith, wrote in 1922 of medical advances he saw on the horizon. In part, he foresaw medical injections that would help humans live to 150 years old. He thought this was a good thing for the most part, but it did make him worry: “How will youths of 20 be able to compete in the professions or business against vigorous men still in their prime at 120, with a century of experience on which to draw?” Telephones will never catch on … In 1876, the president of Western Union, William Orton, dismissed phones as a “toy” when Alexander Graham Bell offered to sell him the patent for $100,000. According to True West magazine, Orton wrote an internal memo stating: “The idea is idiotic on the face of it. Furthermore, why would any person want to use this ungainly and impractical device when he can send a messenger to the telegraph office and have a clear written message sent to any large city in the United States?” … especially phones that also act like computers “There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance.” That’s what Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft, said in 2007. OK, maybe a slight chance? TVs won’t be a big thing 20th Century Fox kingpin Darryl Zanuck sniffed at the idea of “idiot boxes” keeping people out of the theater to see his company’s productions, which included How Green Was My Valley and The Grapes of Wrath. In 1946, he predicted, “Television won’t be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night.” The world will go kablooey at the stroke of midnight on January 1, 2000 Remember when most computers recorded dates using only the last two digits of every year? Well, when 2000 or “00” was about to roll around, lots of smart people feared computers would think it was 1900, also “00”—and global data meltdowns and financial destruction would follow. Eh, not so much. The one thing The Crisis That Never Was did was get its own nickname, Y2K. That’s something, right? People will only want to shop in stores In 1966, Time published an essay called “The Futurists” that looked ahead to life in the year 2000. Here’s one thing they thought would be rejected by humankind: “[R]emote shopping, while entirely feasible, will flop—because women like to get out of the house, like to handle the merchandise, like to be able to change their minds,” the essay said. Tell that to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, who has $220 billion in the bank. From Reader's Digest, June 2025. I poop, therefore I am.
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