The numbers are plummeting as predicted.

Down to 80k this morning. This is the fastest exodus of players ever. And it was all predicted by me.

I have played poe for like 12yrs and have looked at the concurrent Steam player count like twice out of curiousity.

Do you guys only play a game if you think other people are playing it?

Or is this thread mostly just about the the usual fallacious argument of "I think [X] is [negative] and the player count is [down] therefore my [negative] opinion about [X] is correct, and therefore, [the sky is falling]".

Title and post reminds me of a boss I had at an internship like 25 years ago during the dotcom stock market crash who was adamant that the Internet was overhyped and required too much technological overhead to do what everyone thought it was gonna do and during the crash he was all super smug texting everyone he could (for like 25 cents a pop) letting us know, "See I told you guys, everything is going down just like I said it would!". He was also one of those "prepper" types who assumed and prepared for the worst regarding everything.

I mean he was right about prices going down, but he was wrong about everything else, and attributed his conclusions incorrectly. He was just anxious and anything that could be interpreted negatively, was.

I feel that happens here on this forum a lot with concurrent player counts - people just look at numbers and make them mean whatever they feel the numbers should mean because they feel bad about something and need to validate their feelings somehow.

There's a lot of good games out there right now and even I'm finding my time divided between them. There have also been poe leagues I liked a lot less than 0.4 and played more just because I had more time between everything else going on in my life.

Pre-holidays are a busy time for lots of people - not as much time for gaming as I'd like, and I imagine it's the same for a lot of people, not just me. How do we know that's not a factor in the concurrent player count? We don't. Everyone is just attributing it to vibes to say what they want it to say. The numbers don't mean anything other than "this is how many people are playing" - you don't get to add "...and therefore, [conclusion]." just by looking at numbers.

I sometimes come on these forums and I'm just blown away by the amount of negativity. I know that online feedback skews negative but holy moly this place just feels chock full of people grasping for reasons to be angry at developers/designers and/or grasping for reasons to validate that anger or negativity.

I've literally never known a better game development studio than GGG and I've been gaming since the late 80s. I know that doesn't mean they are immune to criticism but the feedback here is like 2% constructive and 98% frustrated vitriol and fallacious "I told you so" argumentative validations regarding said frustrated vitriol and it is dominating these forums.

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eternalJOURNEYofTHEloser#5873 wrote:

Down to 80k this morning. This is the fastest exodus of players ever. And it was all predicted by me.

Thanks mr. Oracle. Now can you tell me about 3rd world war, please?

You hated 0.1, 0.2, and now 0.4. If you don't like the game by now, you probably never will. Just let it go, dude!

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Andromansis#4714 wrote:

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eternalJOURNEYofTHEloser#5873 wrote:

Yeah fraction meaning 80% of players. Basically very good showing of the overall trend.

I don't think steam actually accounts for 80% of players.

Not that I advocate for using Steam as a metric, if you use it constantly as the metric then it’s fair as there’s near zero conversion from platform to platform.
As for 130k a week after launch of a league, that’s great for a beta test of a game that’s 2-3 ‘leagues’ away from release imo.

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Haziza#1519 wrote:

You hated 0.1, 0.2, and now 0.4. If you don't like the game by now, you probably never will. Just let it go, dude!

Yeah why do people insist on putting down a game they clearly dislike lol
We should be looking under bridges imo ;)

As of today, I’m deleting your game and leaving a negative review. I genuinely do not care what you add, change, or “improve” going forward. Endgame tweaks, balance passes, or whatever crumbs you throw out to stop people from complaining mean nothing to me anymore.

After finally getting an “Overrun by the Abyss” proc, I went in excited to actually play the map. Demonform/Bonecage (melee spellcaster) and i get the Shade Walker mod. SOMEHOW I dodge it, save my character, drop out of demonform, and get instantly deleted anyway. No counterplay. No reaction window. Just gone. After dying to this garbage about 20 times this league, having it ruin the one Abyss proc I got was the last straw.

Are you actually serious with these monster mods? Who thought it was acceptable to design content that just one-shots players with zero counterplay? At this point every Abyss is pure RNG: roll the mod, you’re dead. That’s it. Might as well play Hearthstone.

And this isn’t even the only broken nonsense in the game. Proximal Tangibility+Mana Siphon+Haste Aura? Great design. Truly.

I’ve deleted my characters and uninstalled the game. I literally threw away all my progress this league. I spent over €100 supporting you, and it’s painfully obvious that player feedback means absolutely nothing until people start leaving. You’ve officially earned a spot next to Blizzard on my permanent blacklist of companies I won’t touch again.

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SoFaux#7759 wrote:

PoE1 was in a very rough state this early too. We're only here to bug test and break builds so that GGG can patch and nerf for 1.0 release. Do they really care how many people are playing in 0.4? I don't think they're biting their nails or patting their own backs. They're just doing work and building something for 1.0 release.

I am sorry but POE 1 ran like butter at this stage in it's development. This is the 4th league now for POE2 and it has regressed. Didn't have the game breaking bugs with the video drivers in the first 3 leagues like we have with this current one. Never experienced this kind of stuff back in the POE1 beta and first release leagues.

People cannot functionally play this game because GGG rejects all AMD and Microsoft video drivers.

yeah well, the end game is shit, new "league mechanic" practically doesn't work so it adds nothing, there is nothing to do lol.

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Primoz#1139 wrote:

As of today, I’m deleting your game and leaving a negative review. I genuinely do not care what you add, change, or “improve” going forward. Endgame tweaks, balance passes, or whatever crumbs you throw out to stop people from complaining mean nothing to me anymore.

After finally getting an “Overrun by the Abyss” proc, I went in excited to actually play the map. Demonform/Bonecage (melee spellcaster) and i get the Shade Walker mod. SOMEHOW I dodge it, save my character, drop out of demonform, and get instantly deleted anyway. No counterplay. No reaction window. Just gone. After dying to this garbage about 20 times this league, having it ruin the one Abyss proc I got was the last straw.

Are you actually serious with these monster mods? Who thought it was acceptable to design content that just one-shots players with zero counterplay? At this point every Abyss is pure RNG: roll the mod, you’re dead. That’s it. Might as well play Hearthstone.

And this isn’t even the only broken nonsense in the game. Proximal Tangibility+Mana Siphon+Haste Aura? Great design. Truly.

I’ve deleted my characters and uninstalled the game. I literally threw away all my progress this league. I spent over €100 supporting you, and it’s painfully obvious that player feedback means absolutely nothing until people start leaving. You’ve officially earned a spot next to Blizzard on my permanent blacklist of companies I won’t touch again.

Did you ever try PoE 1? I know it's not as pretty, but it's still a good time. Best of all, you don't have to pay to start playing immediately. =^[.]^=