Feedback based on ZiggyD's videos.

From the videos wolf is showing you it performs really well actually.

I'm starting to think you're just tunnel visioned on a problem you think I have and not on what I'm actually saying. The video shows everything he's doing working fine, I do not care about how it may or may not perform; I'm talking purely from a conceptual level about how drastic the difference is between the forms when it comes to internal support and synergy with the rest of the kit.

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The discussion is entirely about how Wolf in particular seems undercooked and will only function through heavy support from everything else.

>Wolf seems undercooked and only functions through heavy supports unlike everything else
>Video showing you otherwise

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>Wolf seems undercooked and only functions through heavy supports unlike everything else
>Video showing you otherwise

Like you said though it's only Act 2, that's pretty much the tutorial still and all because it can do something doesn't mean it does it well, but, that might be a little too big brained of a discussion for you.

What I think is the interesting part, if the videos were actually listened to, which seems they werent but you keep referencing them.



Is that ziggy even talks about how wolf/bear is pretty simplistic, straightforward, and very fluid to play. But the wyvern form is the one that is..


Direct quote
"More complicated form, less plays and lines of synergy overall"

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Like you said though it's only Act 2, that's pretty much the tutorial still and all because it can do something doesn't mean it does it well, but, that might be a little too big brained of a discussion for you.

Haha.


So your original premise of the thread is "look at these videos, wolf form is undercooked"

But the videos and the creator of them even tell you the opposite.


And now your premise is

"Well its only act 2, none of this matters actually"

The videos honestly don't even matter; you can just go read the actual skills. I'm saying there's a design philosophy issue between the 2 where bear form solves all of its resource issues with its own kit and wolf does not. Again, I'll say that maybe you're out of your league in this discussion because you're attacking a position you think I have not what I'm actually saying. I do not care about the numbers.

Again, you brought up that it was campaign to defend any perceived damage problem, which wasn't even my point to begin with, or issues; but, you're also unwilling to concede that it's also just act 2 so because something is capable of clearing that doesn't mean it functions well.

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

The videos honestly don't even matter

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

I'm saying there's a design philosophy issue between the 2 where bear form solves all of its resource issues with its own kit and wolf does not.

Wolf form has no resource issues though.

Was said and seen in the videos.


Which I guess dont matter now, in a thread with the title

"Feedback based on ZiggyD's videos"

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

Again, I'll say that maybe you're out of your league in this discussion

I think this is probably more on your end. It seems like you are just saying things with nothing to back them up.


And then the things you use to try to back up the things you say (videos). Contradict what you are trying to say.


Ie:
>undercooked and only functions through heavy support like everything else (false)
>resource problems (also false)

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Lord Pinkleton#8277 wrote:

Again, you brought up that it was campaign to defend any perceived damage problem, which wasn't even my point to begin with, or issues; but, you're also unwilling to concede that it's also just act 2 so because something is capable of clearing that doesn't mean it functions well.

Actually brought this up in my original post to this thread.




It seems you are ping ponging and changing your point all over the place in this thread OP. With nothing (especially the videos) to back up your claims. Good luck!

Yeah sorry but this is just a typical post-patchnotes doomer thread, please hold on another day and test it yourself thoroughly, then come back with actual feedback.