Is PoE2 even PoE?
" I stopped arguing with these people long ago. They will never acknowledge either our motivations for buying Supporter packs, nor the issue with what was done with those funds. Looked at another way, if we bought them simply for the MTXs, would someone like me, who really enjoys MTXs, stop buying those packs cold turkey (as I have), if I didn't have a serious axe to grind with GGG for what they did? Anyway, I hereby invite anyone who wishes to argue the point about this issue to take it up with someone else. I've made my point, and I'm not gonna debate my motives with a contingent of White Knights and would-be motivational psychologists. =9[.]9= =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/
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" They got you. That's the entire point of marketing. Well Done, you just described GGG's entire marketing strategy in a single sentence. And you also described WHY and HOW it is successful for them. Their entire goal is to spin your thinking in a positive way so that you end up making the purchase you otherwise WOULDN'T........which by your own admission is exactly what you did. And sometimes its as simple as a name. Or a logo. Or a catchphrase. Go ahead and feel betrayed, that's your right. But it must be noted that you were never entitled to anything from them other than the items you purchased, which you received. I am not saying it isn't shady marketing tactics designed to get people exactly like you to spend money....it absolutely IS shady. But ALL MARKETING is shady. It's manipulation. That is the entire field. Technically, any money you spend on any product goes into company coffers and DOES "support" future development of products. But its the MENTALITY that is different. And man did GGG sure manipulate your thinking. They made you THINK that you had a vested interest by "directly" supporting them (which then makes you spend more and more), when in reality its just no different from any other purchase you have made in your life. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Dec 24, 2025, 9:28:25 AM
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" Guess what man? That was ALWAYS your right. At any time. It's YOUR money and YOUR purchases. But your "protest" by no longer buying anything means very little. Your previous purchases didn't make you any more important to the company than any other faceless buyer. Short of getting a free EA key, that is. And the ability to immortalize yourself in-game with div cards and other things that you PURCHASED. If I was always an iPhone and Apple devotee, purchased all the iphones from the original up to, idk, 7.....but then I stopped liking the direction of the company, I have every right to NOT buy any more iphones. And I likely WOULD not buy any more iphones. But you think Apple is going to come knocking at your door PERSONALLY asking you what should be changed to get you back? I kept getting new iphones for so long because I "supported" the phones and the company and made personal expectations of future phones. But then....I didn't. That is all one-sided. They don't care. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Dec 24, 2025, 9:33:37 AM
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nagi, did you really think when I said "people" that I don't include myself in it? Difference being, I didn't buy packs thinking they'd now "owe" me. I'm a rando from the other side of the globe to them. I don't have a relationship with the company GGG. I'm a consumer who bought a product, and when I don't like the product I don't buy it.
Go ahead and be bitter all you like, but don't go around pretending you've been duped The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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What is POE? If they make POE3 which is like POE2 but not like POE1 then is POE1 not POE?
Philosophy aside clearly POE2 is not POE1. Pick a game that you like more and play that. POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
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" Boss....yes. Might be the first line you've written in forums that I completely and fully agree with. Starting anew....with PoE 2
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Cute of you to still feel the need to highlight the fact that you disagree on everything else though. Very mature.
POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
I petition to return all the fun stuff that was removed or nerfed over the years back into POE1. |
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" Yet it was necessary. If I were at all concerned about being "mature", I wouldn't be on these forums at all It's also actually quite a powerful statement: when two diametrically opposed views on PoE actually align, it says something about the topic being discussed. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Dec 24, 2025, 9:53:10 AM
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"Supporter Packs" are the best marketing invention ever - nothing for something and that something being your money.
Your money goes to a company which created some pixels in return for real currency. It's brilliant. How many players you think actually fully take advantage of PoE being free to play? No stash tabs. Now, no auto-fill currency trader. So many breathe this culture without thought, believing they are being altruistic. They make enough. If someone believes that supporter packs are the best use of their money then have at it, but don't ever believe you are owed something because of it. In the end, all games devolve into unplayable shyte compared to their best days or just shutter altogether, or often, get sold to big companies, frequently multiple times, who take money off the addicted players for corporate use and worse, funnel it to political ends to cause the world more pain. You should think about where your money goes |
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" No its actually not powerful in the slightest. We may also agree that sugar is sweet or water is wet, but it doesn't make the topic profound or wothy of discussion. You just wanted to make a jab at my other views and when called out you attempt to dodge the issue istead of owning it. My opinions must be very scary if you keep track of them :D POE2 should be the ruthless vision experience and POE1 should be the zoom power fantasy sandbox to capture both audiences.
I petition to return all the fun stuff that was removed or nerfed over the years back into POE1. |
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