Dear GGG here is the best argument I can put forth. Please read. PvP, Guilds = 3v3.

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Lore#3772 wrote:

I have really bad news for their future.

Comments like this are tells that you know nothing about the business of gaming. GGG built one of the most stable studios in the industry with their crappy PvP.

Talk about what you know, not what you don't.

Oh my bad I forgot. I thought the purpose of developing a game like this was to make a good product.

How foolish of me to forget the real purpose is creating a sandbox that bot farms can abuse, thus abusing the game economy and players. I’m so stupid I forgot priority #1 of gaming studio’s today is to make the game as accommodating to the bot farms because the majority of their player base is the bot farms…

The only reason you think poe1 is still relevant is because GGG isn’t banning bot farmers en mass. Otherwise your servers would be ghost towns.

Also idk if you realize this, tiny Tim, but the whole seasonal reset thing is getting bland for a lot of video game players. Turns out almost 2 decades of “battle pass/seasonal content” being the main driver of every title it gets old. Why does it get old? Because it’s actually not good to be in any situation where the goal post moves on demand and endlessly. Why is that bad? Because no one will ever feel any degree of accomplishment and the only accomplishment they will feel will be empty. That’s what you fail to realize.

But enjoy the future when it spawns in your face and your favorite game dies due to following the herd mentality.

I’d say I just cooked you but you’ve been seared through and through, was aiming for medium well but left you charred.

Have a good day. And for you to imply that I don’t know about what I’m talking about is hilarious considering you can’t even make a point. If you think you can make a point go ahead and try, [Removed by Support]

A bit of free advice, look at how I connected multiple points together to make a bigger point with more context, try to do that rather than spit out a nonsense attack against me with no merit. All you could do is say “nu uh” but in longer format.

[Removed by Support] I doubt you’ll ever respond here again but await for you to make a real and valid point that isn’t nonsense.

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What you fail to realize as well is that clearly I care more about the longevity of the game and the studio itself. But people make poor decisions everyday, for greed, pride, whatever they have to tell themselves. I don’t care if they choose to sink their own ship. It’ll just be a shame to watch.

Does anyone really think it’s appropriate that the last GGG post about PvP was in 2014?

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 wrote:

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Lore#3772 wrote:

I have really bad news for their future.

Comments like this are tells that you know nothing about the business of gaming. GGG built one of the most stable studios in the industry with their crappy PvP.

Talk about what you know, not what you don't.

Oh my bad I forgot. I thought the purpose of developing a game like this was to make a good product.

It's not. The purpose of any business is to make a product that makes money. In case you haven't noticed, many of the best known studios in gaming are not doing well at that. I believe that GGG makes money because they make a good product, but that's a matter of opinion. Dollars-in vs. dollars-out is a matter of fact.

Despite layoffs at gaming studios worldwide, GGG is *hiring*, not laying people off.

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Oh right, the only thing that matters is make money.

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Right now GGG is behaving like a group that only cares about short term returns. Like I said. I don’t care if incompetence kills another great company, it’s par for the course. You think because they are hiring they are prospering. That’s hilarious. You think that because they are hiring they are improving. Wild take brother.

[Removed by Support] If GgG wasn’t in a bad place, guilds would have a purpose. If GgG wasn’t in a bad place they wouldn’t have needed to release poe1 a second time as poe2 beta.

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Poe2 is GGG hailmary at saving the company from being turned to dust over the next decade.

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Lore#3772 wrote:

Oh right, the only thing that matters is make money.

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Out of curiosity, how many businesses have you run? What's your expertise to make these dramatic conclusions, while pointing to no real-world data?

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 wrote:

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Lore#3772 wrote:

Oh right, the only thing that matters is make money.
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Out of curiosity, how many businesses have you run? What's your expertise to make these dramatic conclusions, while pointing to no real-world data?

Bro literally talk to a person who runs bot farms. They are hard to contact and interview but they exist. You’d be surprised how much developers and bot farms are in bed together these days. But whatever, I’ve decided idc anymore.

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Lore#3772 wrote:

Bro literally talk to a person who runs bot farms.

So you have no relevant expertise, education, or other background? In that case, why are you insulting everyone who posts on this thread? Honestly, reprioritize. There are much worse problems in the world right now than a game studio that is making money.

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 wrote:

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Lore#3772 wrote:

Bro literally talk to a person who runs bot farms.

So you have no relevant expertise, education, or other background? In that case, why are you insulting everyone who posts on this thread? Honestly, reprioritize. There are much worse problems in the world right now than a game studio that is making money.

I responded to this but it was removed. I don’t care to explain it again. I know the end of one piece, game of thrones, where the invisible college is, where Justin posey’s treasure is, where Forrest fenn’s treasure actually was before being moved, where one of Forrest fenn’s trinkets is resting, what state and region of the state the lion share box from J.C.B there’s treasure inside is, who D.B.Cooper was, and a few other things.

If you think I’m out of my depth it’s because you have no idea the depth I possess in every field. Anything I take interest in I dominate. Period. I don’t think like most other people do or approach anything in the same manner as most others.

That’s why I know what the one piece is, who Azor Ahai is, and all those other things. Because I know small details matter a lot more than most can understand. I read between lines others don’t even know exist.

The riddle underneath all my posts is still not solved. Waiting for one of you to figure it out. As it turns out only someone who thinks like me can answer it correctly, weird… if I’m so dumb how come no one can answer the simple riddle?

I’m tired of giving advice to people who are ungrateful or just trolls. You are all right, I have no idea what I’m talking about I guess because I don’t have a degree it means my IQ is low. Because it definitely isn’t interest and passion that defines your skills it’s if you sat in on a zoom class for a few months or whatever and got a piece of paper that says good job.

Not like you can get the same education for 0.00 using Google and a library. But hey, what the hell do i know.

I don’t mean this offensively, but if anyone thinks they know more about cause and effect than I do, I’d love to test that in a debate sometime and let time speak for itself.

I’m just a person like anyone else. But I’ve refined my mind with literally the best written riddles known to man. It took me less than 24 hours to solve Justin Posey’s location. But I’m sure I’m out of my depth as it pertains to my ability to think at scale and on a magnified level.

I am a walking cryptid at this point. Everyone else is so vastly different in comparison I mind as well be regarded as another form of life. Walking lore wasn’t something I thought my life would turn into but here we are. Yall are welcome btw.

As for me “solving the worlds problems” first I’d need the power to do so. Good luck making that happen. Even if I have the answers it doesn’t mean anything if people won’t listen. Get off your high horse, because brother you have no idea who I am.

The greatest questions of humanity are common sense to me. The disconnect is most other people need to see it in retrospect to understand it is true. Their equation requires time. Mine requires thought alone.

The oceans that seperate the depth of comprehension have absolutely nothing to do with a degree. If you think they do I’m so sorry that’s how you choose to see it.

I had the average Freshman in College’s reading comprehension in 3rd grade. Literally tested and placed at the top 3 students. I was the one the teachers liked the least as well. When it comes to comprehending, I’ve been doing it at an elite level since I was a child.

I’m not sorry if my mere existence offends you. I reiterate that you do not know me. As I do not know you. But I can look at your words and give you a response that is accurate to what you provided as Your Stance. If people choose to put up foolish comments void of any argument or comprehension or even basic logic, that’s not my fault or problem.

I’ve wasted enough time here and I’m gonna take a break from poe2 and gaming in general. The whole industry is cracked. It’s like watching people destroy circular wheels and make square wheels for a fashion statement, at an industry wide level. Then being told that anyone who believes in circular wheels is stupid at an industry wide level. It’s kinda become so toxic I question if 10% of replies are even real humans.

Just in case anyone is following this, Amazon just laid off everyone working at the studio that makes the MMO New World. New World is one of the 100 most played games on Steam, and it is (was) backed by one of the largest companies in the world.

It's rough out there. For GGG to be hiring right now is extremely impressive. I don't know of many studios currently hiring. Perhaps related, I think Chris Wilson's new studio is hiring!

I'm not saying the game is perfect, but please recognize what a lucky position we are in.

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 wrote:

Just in case anyone is following this, Amazon just laid off everyone working at the studio that makes the MMO New World. New World is one of the 100 most played games on Steam, and it is (was) backed by one of the largest companies in the world.

It's rough out there. For GGG to be hiring right now is extremely impressive. I don't know of many studios currently hiring. Perhaps related, I think Chris Wilson's new studio is hiring!

I'm not saying the game is perfect, but please recognize what a lucky position we are in.

Here’s a wild “conspiracy theory”. Maybe there’s a deeper reason to that lay off than you think.

Also here’s something no one has realized that I’ll yet again just throw out there.

You are correct. The competition is going to get more cutthroat towards innovation to take up market share. Anything that isn’t “competitive” within its genre is going to be turned to dust.

Just marinate on that thought while remembering AI will always have forced limitations for non government purposes. Maybe they could make an AI that could perfectly code something to mirror Poe but with better everything and more engaging and detailed story, but I doubt they’ll ever let that drop due to what it would do to the industry.

But they will have AI to the point you won’t need as many developers working on any given title soon. Which is a big deal for people who want to compete.

It’s not about what I want. It’s about what you are up against that you can’t even see yet. I’d rather Poe win that long term battle in the end. And honestly believe it has the foundation to do so. But a lot of it relies on them and wether they are just short term return minded rn.

You can say it’s easy to arm chair quarterback or backseat drive, because it is. Because looking at the game from a screen and angle where you can see everything differently than the people on the field gives you information they couldn’t possibly have in the moment.

I don’t care what any of you think of me tbh, I know that if most of you knew me you’d at least show gratitude for who I have chosen to become.

And because you don’t know me you feel comfortable ridiculing not even what I have to say (because that would take effort) but asking me qualifiers and ridiculing PvP in general. It’s not hard to see the Forest through the trees when you know how to look.

But we can let time decide for us, I’m always comfortable seeing if I’m right or wrong about something. Eitherway I learn. But only through conviction can I temper the sword that is truth. It isn’t about always being right, it’s about believing you are right until you are actually confronted with data that contradicts your beliefs. At that point your conviction is directed to the truth only. Which is a semblance of that data.

Enjoy your PvM. It’s not even PvE by definition unless PvP is flagable bro. Those square wheels are pretty easy to see. You know what I’ll be fair, for a PvM only game poe2 has super oval wheels. It’s a smoother ride than square wheels 90% of the time unless the ovals all about to go vertical at the same time. It was wrong of me to say this game has square wheels. But regardless reinventing the wheel benefits nobody in the long term. I’ve said my peace.

P.S. if you are concerned about the long term health of this game and have control, if PvP isn’t an option you should find a way to stabilize a healthy standard population. I don’t know how you’d do that without PvP from a psychological perspective. But maybe there’s things not even I can think of. Regardless what’s going to cost poe2 in the long run the most is the fact now you double burn out the player to the “not real and entirely momentary reward of seasonal content” by this I mean sure you’ll get tons of poe1 and poe2 players to also play the other game. But without PvP you are going to burn them out of that content mind set faster. PvP isn’t bad by design. It gets the most hate because it’s where burnout happens the most frequent and hardest.

That last statement isn’t opinion. It’s proven science. We all basically have a rat type trait where if we don’t win 3/10 times we don’t want to play anymore. Pretty much on average applies to everyone unless you are aware it’s like a lesser form of existence to sweat your losses. If you are competing against someone and you only win 3/10 times it means you have room to learn and grow better in a way that person will inadvertently teach you. The best way to get rid of PvP burn out is to make the most competitive rank of PvP level bracket below 15. This has tremendous starting benefits such as ease of access via leveling requirements, ease of access to crafting or farming required items over a season, ease of mind that whatever happens it’s on a low level character that doesn’t really matter to any other part of the game.

That way competitive is Smurf only and can be easily balanced around. Maybe as you get better at balancing you can increase the level brackets.

But again, what do I know other than to do something effectively and efficiently with a long term mindset goal in mind.

What’s important to remember about PvP as a whole is the effort the developer puts into it is mirrored by the community. The lowest grade effort will receive the lowest grade reward. The highest grade effort will ideally multiply your player base for a decade.

P.S.S. What’s also cool is if you start at level 15 cap, as you work your way up if you do it right it’ll lead to reinvigorated minds and new methods at the right critical times to keep that segment of the player base engaged. Kinda like everyone’s waiting for the moment level 100 ranked is released but it takes a few years.

No one should expect fully polished end game PvP I get that, but in reality it shouldn’t be that extensive to cook something up and balance for low levels first. The rewards are again what matters. With the right cosmetic rewards you can keep people engaged and help foster the community itself for slight investment of assets you already control. The thing is to do this right all you do is leverage things that already exist within your sphere of influence anyway. Take that cool cosmetic set that isn’t selling that well and give it a recolor that only goes to top 3 guilds. You could even make it a temporary cosmetic reward if you wanted to go that route with it. But I think you get the idea. I hope you do at least. It’s all about the story you build behind it and the reward for it.

I would LOVE to see PVP in this game, the Souls-like aspects in this game would make PVP simply incredible. I would love to see this massively expanded!

HOW DO I SUPPORT THIS WITH MY WALLET?!?!?!