new bloodline ascendancies: mostly garbage?
" Right.....but I'm assuming you are getting one of the new beast spectre nodes for it right? So you give up: 30% resist, 30% damage, potentially a good chunk of attack/cast speed, AND 2 (or more) spectres. That is a sizable loss. I love Commander of Darkness resists as it makes gearing much easier. Especially getting minion rings. And other cheaper gear options. The damage and speed is mostly made up from the new buff aura....but you tradeoff extra spectre buffs just to recoup what you are losing from giving up Darkness. Plus...many of those random modifiers from the pool are likely offensive which will be mostly useless as I highly doubt the build is going to be running around with ONE offensive attacking spectre over a support spectre. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Oct 26, 2025, 9:02:53 PM
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so far i dont know about beast spectres will have to try to figure those ones out.
Mash the clean Last edited by Mashgesture#2912 on Oct 26, 2025, 9:05:56 PM
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The tigers node pisses me off. Like.....THAT could be super cool but the buff they provide is just stupid. Grant that buff to you AND other allies, so that it actually synergizes and you can make a tiger build. Also....tell us the max tigers lol.
Even oldschool spectral wolves have more "tech" associated with them, at least at a glance. But they suffer the same non-synergistic buff problem and therefore we see basically ZERO wolf builds. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Oct 26, 2025, 9:13:09 PM
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" I can't tell if you are being serious or not, but yes, you get to use an ascendancy point for each bloodline node. |
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" Yes I was serious...I missed that and it didn't even factor into my already low opinion of these. It's also depressing BECAUSE I keep coming back to the OTHER league (3.23) where we got secondary ascendancies: FULLY FLESHED OUT ascendancies, with their own set of points and their own way of gaining those points. This is just so much worse, not just in terms of node design but now ALSO in terms of how we are able to use them. The ascendancies are ALREADY small and designed with heavy tradeoffs......why then ALSO force us to lose power in the form of our own ascendancies just to even try them out. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Oct 26, 2025, 9:25:29 PM
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ngl catarina also looks good for pure spectres
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" Yes....I would argue that single line in that single node is possibly the most powerful node in ALL of the bloodlines. Getting all that universal defense is crazy. But the rest of umbral army? Anti-synergistic. A Zombie attacker? Skeleton spellcaster? Paltry amount of movement speed for using phantasms? Some cast speed for SRS, which is likely already using unleash or has enough cast speed...? It'd be so much more interesting if all of those buffs applied to your army and NOT to you. I see no use for either of the other two nodes. Just straight up no usage. Even if they didn't cost an ascendancy point. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Oct 26, 2025, 10:08:02 PM
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First impressions:
Farrul Huntleader - 10 spectral tigers + 10 spectral wolves with law of the wilds? Sounds really cool. I have no idea how to do it. Lycia 50% ele to chaos - Consuming Dark + Infernal Mantle build to get 95% conversion from fire to chaos and can still use a shield? Firestorm poison build? Voltaxic Burst? Delirious Embrace Madness - If only one instance of embrace madness can be active and the breach hands give you just a little bit more reduced debuff effect duration to get it under 4 seconds (I think you still need another ~35% or so without going crazy) I definitely want to give this a go with the boots. Catarina Umbral Army - Pure spectres with helm = lots of global defenses. Seems good? Olroth ward - <15% bypasses and 5% restore on hit seem strong. When Ynda's was a 1c item I was using that with Svalinn and ward was a huge pool boost that didn't drop off too often because not much ever hit you. If it instantly refreshed or never fell off it would be amazing. Overall I don't see anything that I would want to "rush"...smart people will have to find broken things. Nothing calls out to me. For basic game play I would be most likely to just take the chaos bloodline with an extra 2 points. GGG please make the elusive node 100% chance to fall off at 100% effect. |
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" Farrul Huntleader: would be nothing more than a gimmick, like wolves already are. The problem is their scaling. We would be unable to support tigers at all too. Even with squire and law and a near-perfect build, wolves deal like.....no damage. Unless tigers are ridiculously strong out of the gate, they will add nothing with zero support gems. Lycia: the problem is that Original Sin exists. Before getting that ring, you likely would be better building pure chaos using other tech. Embrace Madness: downsides are HUGE Umpral Army spectre defenses: great for spectres, but the rest of the node is awful Ward: not much experience with ward, nor do I particularly like how it operates. Could be a strong one especialyl considering we don't really have much ward "normaL" ascendancies Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Oct 26, 2025, 10:55:53 PM
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The bloodlines REEK of poe 2 design, they look truly awful, i wouldnt be surprised if i dont pick a single bloodline at all. Extremely disappointing.
Ascendancy nodes should NEVER have any downsides on them what so ever, what a joke. |
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