POE2 is still just a meta stack that does not allow build creative freedom.

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tzaeru#0912 wrote:
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+- yeah
build variety is dead most skills are unplayable
crit is super meta
and defenses are bad so everyone is going for 1tap builds
since if u get hit u mostly likely gonna die
i mean come on the bosses have ridiculously high HP pulls and every second hit can 1 TAP u
most builds cant even do those bosses because they lack the dmg even whit insane gear
so y bother build defenses in that case?!


Honestly atm the skill balance in of itself is not that bad if considering playable skills.

I'm looking at a list of top builds. True enough, most are shock based, and spectre second.

But in the top ranks, there's several dozen primary DPS skills in use. If I look at e.g. mace or say spear skill list, people have figured out builds for half of the DPS skills.

It's of course important that the underperforming and the truly useless skills get some love. For example, Toxic Growth is not really a thing at all. Or for example Bone Blast, in HC ladder, there's exactly zero characters at level 90 or above who have it even slotted.


Now do defenses in that same list...


Yup, ES vs life and armor vs evasion balance is a much bigger issue than the balance of damage skills.
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Indeed it is. In their mind because they change a couple nodes or dont have the exact gear the guide says to have and its somehow their own "home brew build".

You missed the part where I'm pure evasion melee? I literally built this character because I was so tired of seeing people whine on these forums about how ES was the only way to create defenses.

I've found a few other people who've done similar in PoE2.ninja, but it's rare: less than 10 characters total.

Strong builds and crafting strategies are often secret. Every once in a while, it's a good idea to look at goofy characters in PoeNinja. There are some creative people out there.
SSF Rise of the Abyssal Ice Strike Invoker, high survivability and fast clear speed. Deprioritize armor and resistances; prioritize crafting a weapon and faster start of ES recharge. Build is shown at level 47, end of Act 3. It tore through Act 3 like butter.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/ba84
There are a big variety of build in the game, it just depends what you seek. Yeah if you want to oneshot every boss with 1 click build yeah not much builds like that, but if you sacrifice that dps you can nearly build around almost every skill and still clear the game just not oneshot everything.

They should address this with balance patches but they don't really do that. There should be no build that oneshots high tier bosses with minimal to no effort put into it (I mean nearly perfect gear). And bosses should not oneshot you either.
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Gery0724#5426 wrote:
There are a big variety of build in the game, it just depends what you seek. Yeah if you want to oneshot every boss with 1 click build yeah not much builds like that, but if you sacrifice that dps you can nearly build around almost every skill and still clear the game just not oneshot everything.

They should address this with balance patches but they don't really do that. There should be no build that oneshots high tier bosses with minimal to no effort put into it (I mean nearly perfect gear). And bosses should not oneshot you either.


Yeah, the issue with this mostly is the trade league. Of course one can play anything they want - but when you have characters overperforming, e.g. blitz clearing maps and one shotting bosses, then those characters have much more currency and more loot, which makes the market skewed towards catering to those players.

Meaning, in practice, that good items become more expensive for players playing suboptimal builds.
Agree with you, also they should balance the game more for ssf in my opinion. I want a grand spectre gem. Options in trade league: I either farm 18 divs which is with my build that isn't oneshotting screens and not nearly in finished state would take me about 20-30+ hours or more, or i run trials which will drop me 1 of 3 every 20 ish run or more. And if i need 3 it will just go up more and more. And all of it is based on that if you get it. I run 50 trials and got 1 grand spectre.
Speed modifiers is the key to everything.... Disable them and balance will come by each own!

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