[Suggestion] Ingame Pool / Voting for major changes.

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Polantaris#1920 wrote:

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 wrote:

In a nutshell: players are great at recognizing that things don't feel good, but lousy at knowing how to fix problems.

A form of poll/survey system can still help that, though.

"Does the game feel better than it was before?" level of feedback. Give them a chance to articulate what's wrong if you want to go all out. Having players suggest solutions is a bad idea, but allowing the players to provide structured feedback in a way that can get cataloged appropriately automatically would be valuable if they intended to actually use it.

I suspect a big problem right now is that feedback has no structure. 2/3 of the major sources of feedback that I'm aware of aren't in GGG's control (Steam Discussions and Reddit), and the forums are a mess. Tons of threads that devolve into pointless debates about things that will never change, or people just having petty, irrelevant debates that don't even talk about the problems anymore. Then, there's actual good feedback buried between the noise.

How do you really consolidate this into actionable feedback? Maybe you could get a team of community managers that try but, truth be told, the lack of any form of data structure makes that a monumental ask. Giving players a structured avenue to provide such feedback would make this job significantly more feasible.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if nothing that people post about on these forums ever ends up in the view of someone that can do something about it. Maybe if there's enough top level threads about something, but by and large I don't think it does.

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Pkay#0596 wrote:

Reminds me of what Jagex did back in 2014: Power to the Players. That was a huge W.

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SilentSymphony#3358 wrote:

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Polantaris#1920 wrote:

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DistributedAutomaton#5739 wrote:

In a nutshell: players are great at recognizing that things don't feel good, but lousy at knowing how to fix problems.

A form of poll/survey system can still help that, though.

"Does the game feel better than it was before?" level of feedback. Give them a chance to articulate what's wrong if you want to go all out. Having players suggest solutions is a bad idea, but allowing the players to provide structured feedback in a way that can get cataloged appropriately automatically would be valuable if they intended to actually use it.

I suspect a big problem right now is that feedback has no structure. 2/3 of the major sources of feedback that I'm aware of aren't in GGG's control (Steam Discussions and Reddit), and the forums are a mess. Tons of threads that devolve into pointless debates about things that will never change, or people just having petty, irrelevant debates that don't even talk about the problems anymore. Then, there's actual good feedback buried between the noise.

How do you really consolidate this into actionable feedback? Maybe you could get a team of community managers that try but, truth be told, the lack of any form of data structure makes that a monumental ask. Giving players a structured avenue to provide such feedback would make this job significantly more feasible.


I honestly wouldn't be surprised if nothing that people post about on these forums ever ends up in the view of someone that can do something about it. Maybe if there's enough top level threads about something, but by and large I don't think it does.

Before the surge of players that came with PoE2 it was actually possible to get a dev to see some of your posts here, But since the explosion of players the forum has become too dense and full of noise for GGG to presumably glean much of anything from the devoted playerbase who has been posting here since beta.

They have listened to a lot of people in these forums though in the past, Added peoples ideas many times.

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BlastYa#4875 wrote:

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Pkay#0596 wrote:

Reminds me of what Jagex did back in 2014: Power to the Players. That was a huge W.

Maybe it was nice in 2014 but it kinda ruined the game.

It's the exact exemple i would take to say they shouldnt do it here.

PVMer voting against PVP content with no valid reason, they even had to add restriction on who was allow to vote for PVP update based on them participation into the PVP scene. Wish didnt really fix much things since it's hard to really know.

People mass voting on multiple account. Not to forget the insane amount of bots farm OSRS have to deal with.

And lastly the introducing of sailing while half the playerbase didnt want it.

People are just making groups and lobbying, the ones who have the most account always get the last word.

I wish they would just remove thoose poll tbh, would be much better for the game.
All thoose little wars between players are not helping and that's the only thing reflected in thoose polls.

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CyberData4#5867 wrote:

The last thing on Earth I want is for this game to be designed by player committee. No thanks, comrade.