What was the point of Poe2?

Billy Bob looked at Earl and said "Know what? I bet I could swim across yonder river."

Earl said, "Yer on! 20 bucks?"

Billy Bob said "Bet!" and jumped in and swam like his 5 remaining teeth depended on it. Halfway across the river he decided it wasn't worth it and swam back.

GGG is not the company it was 10 years ago. It is owned by someone else. What was the point of POE2? Isn't it incredibly obvious?

As to why it was designed and made the way it was? Hubris.

When devs think they know what players want better than the players, you have this pile.

If you want a glance at GGG's (probable) future, please see Blizzard Entertainment. Only difference is that Blizz took many years to die. This'll be quick.

I don't think "POE 2 failed" because POE 2 is still in early access and a lot of people treat it like its a finished game, their attitudes, their entitlement, etc. They don't know what the term early access means.

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KingExodusGG#1474 wrote:

I don't think "POE 2 failed" because POE 2 is still in early access and a lot of people treat it like its a finished game, their attitudes, their entitlement, etc. They don't know what the term early access means.

Probably because for past decade gaming companies were releasing half baked slop full of bugs and calling it "early acess" just to have excuse, while never planning to finish the game.

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Aynix#7757 wrote:

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KingExodusGG#1474 wrote:

I don't think "POE 2 failed" because POE 2 is still in early access and a lot of people treat it like its a finished game, their attitudes, their entitlement, etc. They don't know what the term early access means.

Probably because for past decade gaming companies were releasing half baked slop full of bugs and calling it "early acess" just to have excuse, while never planning to finish the game.

I can see that but I also wont punish GGG for the actions of other companies. Being that I have really only invested into POE over the last 6 years I don't really play much anything else. Idk when I see "early access" to me that immediately says (Not finished, has potential, needs feedback, not ready for final sale, etc)

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KingExodusGG#1474 wrote:

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Aynix#7757 wrote:

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KingExodusGG#1474 wrote:

I don't think "POE 2 failed" because POE 2 is still in early access and a lot of people treat it like its a finished game, their attitudes, their entitlement, etc. They don't know what the term early access means.

Probably because for past decade gaming companies were releasing half baked slop full of bugs and calling it "early acess" just to have excuse, while never planning to finish the game.

I can see that but I also wont punish GGG for the actions of other companies. Being that I have really only invested into POE over the last 6 years I don't really play much anything else. Idk when I see "early access" to me that immediately says (Not finished, has potential, needs feedback, not ready for final sale, etc)

Will you punish GGG on the merits of what they didn't include in POE2? Namely crafting, loot, player movement, a good combat system, etc. ?

I think the best part about PoE 2 is updated graphics that helps maintain relevancy in the current year. I don't speak for anyone but myself when I say that I am most definitely not going to play PoE 2 as much as I have played PoE 1. Why? Well, it's a matter of which game respects my time and effort most, I suppose. If the goal is to have people play through the campaign and entry tier content at least every 3 months or so, they can't make that barrier as insanely slow and boring as I found it to be in PoE 2. I play ACTION RPGs, not "slow af" RPGs.

But, like I said, that's just how I see things. If you enjoy it I have no quarrel with you.

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Will you punish GGG on the merits of what they didn't include in POE2? Namely crafting, loot, player movement, a good combat system, etc. ?

No I wont punish them for anything. It's early access. Loot, crafting, player movement and all of that stuff can and will change in time. Again, EARLY ACCESS.

Here's the definition for you,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_access

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Ashock#6395 wrote:

If you want a glance at GGG's (probable) future, please see Blizzard Entertainment. Only difference is that Blizz took many years to die. This'll be quick.

To be fair - D4 is much more fun than PoE2 - that and Blizz isn't any more dead than GGG is.

Cool story though!

2 points for effort.

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Golden_Order#0868 wrote:

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Ondrashek06#5795 wrote:

Simple - GGG just didn't like PoE 1. They didn't like the fast-paced ARPG gameplay, nor did they like the amount of loot.

Why would they work on the version of PoE that does not align with the vision?

I know what you mean. But its weird, I mean, the fanbase loved Poe1, its what GGG was good at, everyone enjoyed it. So, they decided to kill their golden goose just because 1 or 2 guys at GGG (Chris and his "vision") didnt like it?. Talking about ego and arrogance.

well apparently not everyone loved what poe1 turned out to be, myself included. have not touched poe1 several years now due to the bloatfest that it has become and im actually enjoying poe2 alot more. the combat aspect of poe2 is so much better and satisfying to play compared to something like poe1 or LE where it feels like hitting cardboard half the time. i value the "action" portion in an action rpg very much and poe2 actually nailed that down well even if the loot isnt great or skills are nerfed to the ground. as long as the core gameplay loop of entering a map and killing mobs is satisfying then thats enough for me so im pretty glad poe2 exists.