Create a permanent league for Ruthless

I know it might be seen as an experimental mode to observe the economy in its purest form, but for players, it's hard to accept that characters become useless after the league ends. Ruthless offers a unique and challenging experience, and it deserves to be permament.

It's the same as all the other modes, standard ruthless is the permanent league.

If your point is that the base leagues is not a permanent league because it's where everything gets rolled in, I have some agreement. I played ruthless standard up until the first league rolled in very happily, but when the leagues started getting merged in I lost interest because of the changes. Your character is not useless though, you can still play it.

Having leagues is far superior to not having updates. I don't know exactly how they would have a completely permanent league, because with the amount of updates the game gets, the permanent league would fall so far behind it would be a completely different game. It's only a couple of years back since the atlas system was completely different along with a lot of other changes. The only thing I could think of is having the each league update, but not rolling in the economy and characters from the league, in which case your character really would be unplayable after the league. Other games do it like this, but POE is a lot different than other games, especially with the amount of updates. Or they roll into standard as usual, but there is a separate permanent league where nothing gets rolled in, but does get the updates as the leagues end. I might be interested in that, but I think a lot of people wouldn't like it. It also continues to split the player base, which is very split at the moment.

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

...is not useless though, you can still play it...

I don't know what you're talking about, but in Ruthless, after the league ends, you can't play your character from the Ruthless league anymore. You're mistaken and wrote a whole thing off-topic...

So what are you talking about ?

And if it's indeed not about the already existing permanent Ruthless Standard leagues that characters from temporary challenge Ruthless leagues already migrate to,

but instead about builds not working any more because of some updates or some temporary challenge league specific features,

then I would like to point out that other games aren't online-only, so you can play whatever game version you want, and so this is a non-issue.

Never mind I think I could mismatched something...
Topic not actual

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koszmarnica#7777 wrote:

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

...is not useless though, you can still play it...

I don't know what you're talking about, but in Ruthless, after the league ends, you can't play your character from the Ruthless league anymore. You're mistaken and wrote a whole thing off-topic...

Are you specifically talking about HC ruthless? There may be discrepancy with that particular mode with character going to the void rather than a parent league. Standard HC Ruthless exists though and is permanent. Hard to know exactly what you are referencing? "Useless" doesn't have a specific meaning in POE. If you want specific responses you need your post to be specific in your topic.

I'm interested in what you have to say because I also like ruthless mode and welcome any opinions people have that might enhance it. However you have not made it clear exactly what you are suggesting to be changed from the current system.

Does this relate to HC Ruthless league-end characters not rolling into a parent league or something to do with characters loosing functionality after they migrate? You can never play a character in a league after it has ended. That's how leagues work POE, once they end they can not be played but then typical a new one becomes available. Otherwise there would be about 40 leagues running currently.

I think I made a mistake. It seemed to me that characters who survive do not go to permanent leagues. I think it came from the fact that I never survived to the end and when I died once or twice I did not want to start again.

That's all I meant nothing more.

Ruthless is interesting with its severity and simplification.

What I do not like or is wrong for me it is primarily the filter syntax in which the word Hide was replaced with Minimal
second the lack of crafting...

You may be correct if you were playing HC Ruthless.

The wiki says

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Characters used in Hardcore versions of Ruthless mode, certain event leagues (such as Endless Delve or Mayhem), or in a Valdo's Puzzle Box map with the Players who Die in area are sent to the Void mod are automatically transferred to the Void League upon death or at the end of the event's duration.

I'm not certain if that means just when the HC characters die for ruthless or also at the end of the league even if they are not dead. Someone who plays ruthless HC would need to explain, because I haven't myself and am not sure.

If you don't get to migrate your living HC character into standard HC ruthless at the end of league I can see why that would be annoying.

Yes it is a good mode but there are some things that can be improved.

I think that from standard temporary/Challenge Leagues, live characters go to Permanent Leagues at the end and you can play them.

From what you write, there could have been leagues from which characters did not go to Permanent Leagues and that I mixed up too...

Conclusion - read the league rules...

Seems like the (challenge temporary) Phrecia (and Settlers+Necro before it ?) characters migrate into the 'parent' (challenge temporary) Settlers league first instead of directly into the (permanent) Standard leagues ?