Over 60% of players are playing "Lightning Spear". Where is the build diversity?

Lightning spears seems to be "overpowered" because others are simply bad in current state of the game where you are incentivize heavily into building aoe / clear speed.

The build requires tons of investment to be a true one button build, while people that have little to no investment, and even a medium investment, they still need to micro manage Infusion buffs with charge generation, tracking Volt buff, and press 2 to 3 button to make the combo works.

I play this build from day 1 to endgame map, and its balanced. Even with Lycosidae, Beacon of Azis, Power charge generator armour, and decents ring + weapon, I still have to press Sniper Mark / Barrage, upkeep my charge generation and not spamming LS constantly so Volt will have maximum effect.

People gravitate more toward this build because its new and have range option, while being not that great in defense because of relying on evasion and needs really heavy investment to be hybrid eva / es which majority of players still not there. Its just your generic range bow / xbow archetype.

On the other hand, Smith of Kitava / Titan Leap Slam build is way way way more braindead than this build because not only its tankier than Amazon, all you do is press Leap Slam to clear map and Perfect Strike for single target. No need to micro manage charge generation, infusion and volt buffs, or stagger bar when mounting rhoa.

What I find hilarious is that everyone was saying spear sucked.

And now all the sudden its the best thing once someone came out with a guide. Literally had nothing to do with the changes that happened.


You dont have to play LS though not sure why you care what percent of people are playing a skill

well they nerfed 99% of everything in the game. im sure after reading this post lightning spear gets nerfed too and then we got nothing to play but d4 lol

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You dont have to play LS though not sure why you care what percent of people are playing a skill

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well they nerfed 99% of everything in the game. im sure after reading this post lightning spear gets nerfed too and then we got nothing to play but d4 lol

I don't "care" about others playing a build, i'm glad they're enjoying it. The issue is it shows the massive gap between that build and almost all others. I don't want a nerf on it, but they need to bring up atleast a few skills so we have other good builds that can compete and it increases the options we have to have a fun endgame without spending 200 divines.

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zeddy123#4861 wrote:

I don't "care" about others playing a build, i'm glad they're enjoying it. The issue is it shows the massive gap between that build and almost all others. I don't want a nerf on it, but they need to bring up atleast a few skills so we have other good builds that can compete and it increases the options we have to have a fun endgame without spending 200 divines.

They dont need to bring up anything to LS level if you dont care about LS.

Play what you want.

Stop worrying about LS.

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They dont need to bring up anything to LS level if you dont care about LS.

Play what you want.

Stop worrying about LS.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I would disagree. I'm just providing my feedback on why having one skill that's way stronger (and cheaper) than almost all builds, that can clear enitre screens in 1 button click is not a great idea. Leaves you with the option of either playing it to grind faster, or struggle with sub-par builds for a long time till you can make expensive currency and then perhaps you can clear.

The balance is simply off, and hence I believe they should add more options on other spells / weapons to make the experience more enjoyable.

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zeddy123#4861 wrote:

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They dont need to bring up anything to LS level if you dont care about LS.

Play what you want.

Stop worrying about LS.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I would disagree. I'm just providing my feedback on why having one skill that's way stronger (and cheaper) than almost all builds, that can clear enitre screens in 1 button click is not a great idea. Leaves you with the option of either playing it to grind faster, or struggle with sub-par builds for a long time till you can make expensive currency and then perhaps you can clear.

The balance is simply off, and hence I believe they should add more options on other spells / weapons to make the experience more enjoyable.

If balance is off on a skill, that far ahead, then ask what you should ask.

Nerf.

You dont ask other things to be brought up to something you believe is broken.
Thats just stacking broken on top of broken.


If you think you cant complete or compete in this game "because LS" then you might never finish anything :\

The tree, gems, and crafting is so rudimentary in this game that you could pick anything you want to play and succeed.

But you are stuck on "but LS is powerful so I dont see the point"

Build diversity left the room. It does not look good on Lich either. Play minions, ED/C or suffer

I know they can't straight up copy D2 but the whirlwind/tornado skills are based off the druid and I would love if it was actually more like the druid - the whirlwind has a medium duration and moves with you.

I think they could do something like this:

whirlwind, follows players movement, 10 second duration, 20 second cooldown

while whirlwind is active, shoot 2 full powered tornados (and not in random ass directions, somewhat predictably in front of the player)

or maybe whirlwind stays active as long as you recently shot a tornado but make this a mana-intense build to somewhat keep it from being too AFK

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If balance is off on a skill, that far ahead, then ask what you should ask.

Nerf.

I've said it multiple times, I'm not asking for a nerf. I agree with GGG that nerfing the most played build mid-league would have a lot of repurcussions. And I'm not asking for other skills to clear everything in 1 hit either. Doesn't have to be a binary, it can be a middle ground.

For example, sorc builds are completely gutted right now. Monk is also very sub-par. I'm simply asking them to look at these and buff them to an appropriate amount to where they feel atleast enjoyable.

I'm comparing BAD skills to overpowered ones. That's the main issue, which makes the gap feel way worse when you're playing most other builds. If you don't think its overpowered, all power to you, we can agree to disagree. But I would recommend trying other classes like sorc if you have time, and perhaps you'd see what I mean.