We just act like nothing happened ? Cheating and Account-Sharing is okay now?

Hilarious as the incident has make people aware of the existence of RMT market instead of pretending it doesn't exist.

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awesome999#2945 wrote:

Hilarious as the incident has make people aware of the existence of RMT market instead of pretending it doesn't exist.

It’s not like we are constantly spammed in game with ads. They made it pretty hard to be unaware. My youtube is even all RMT site ads

It was Early Access though. Who cares? What about the blatant market manipulation price fixing that went on? Was that okay? It's EA. Noone objective cares.

Now, if it happens during a Gauntlet or a race, or a proper league, yeah.

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t0lkien#7048 wrote:

It was Early Access though. Who cares? What about the blatant market manipulation price fixing that went on? Was that okay? It's EA. Noone objective cares.

Now, if it happens during a Gauntlet or a race, or a proper league, yeah.

The fuck are you talking about?

The TOS doesn't say "except if you're not in a gauntlet or a race".

Blatant price fixing isn't ok either, but its vastly more acceptable by the rules than RMT and account sharing, which are both overtly against the rules.

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

Blatant price fixing isn't ok either, but its vastly more acceptable by the rules than RMT and account sharing, which are both overtly against the rules.

Acceptable by who exactly? BY the gaming companies?

If gaming companies are morally corrupted, would it be ok?

In the TOS, It is often legal for gaming companies to ban anyone without a valid reason. It is also legal for them to not ban anyone even if they violate the rules for their own reasons. They can choose not to exercise this right.

The TOS is for their benefits and to protect themselves, not a justice system or people assume, demand and insist it should be righteous when in practice it is not.

Trying to assume the appearance of some degree of righteousness sometimes but not always.
Being Righteousness when it is inherently rewarding, ignoring it when it is not or suit their purpose.

Did people not read the TOS?

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awesome999#2945 wrote:

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

Blatant price fixing isn't ok either, but its vastly more acceptable by the rules than RMT and account sharing, which are both overtly against the rules.

Acceptable by who exactly? BY the gaming companies?

If gaming companies are morally corrupted, would it be ok?

In the TOS, It is often legal for gaming companies to ban anyone without a valid reason. It is also legal for them to not ban anyone even if they violate the rules for their own reasons. They can choose not to exercise this right.

The TOS is for their benefits and to protect themselves, not a justice system or people assume, demand and insist it should be righteous when in practice it is not.

Trying to assume the appearance of some degree of righteousness sometimes but not always.
Being Righteousness when it is inherently rewarding, ignoring it when it is not or suit their purpose.

Did people not read the TOS?

Acceptable for the ongoing integrity of the game?

Pretending like the average player doesn't expect the rules to be enforced as outlined in the ToS is absolutely absurdist apologetics. Can they decide to ignore them when they want? Of course. Should it be at zero cost to reputation? Absolutely not. If rules are enforced only by whim of the enforcers, the game's integrity is nonexistent.

If you're actually ok with people overtly and explicitly breaking the rules and nothing happening to them we have nothing to say to each other; I also wouldn't play basketball with someone who thinks someone who is rich should be allowed to kick and punch because they might buy the club and shut it down either.

The vast vast majority of social behavior (as different from antisocial behavior) is policed and enforced by social pressure, not law. The fact that something is legal has only passing reference on whether or not it is ok, or whether we should simply accept it. Rules as outlined by a governing body not being enforced by that same governing body in a social passtime have nothing to do with law, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be enforced and it doesn't mean their choosing not to do so shouldn't be met with resistance from constituents of that interest group.

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Kaukus1#7461 wrote:

If that were the case, wouldn’t that make the whole race to first place kind of pointless?
If the rules don’t apply to everyone, then what’s even the point of competing?

it always has been pointless, they are just digital trophies on a server you dont own.

Does it matter how much you value the race to 100? Plenty of people value it enough for it to be a thing.


Regardless, if left unhandled (which it seems), it will go at the cost of trust. It will not be forgotten and used whenever a ban situation comes up (for example, this thread).

So it won't go away, and it will linger perpetually.


And if they ban this person, GGG has made it to world news. I can't blame them for being hesitant at least. This cheater can put some budget in and swarm poe with undetectable bots indefinitely, outbudget GGG in any way to cope with whatever consequences, and by now can probably get the US government to back him up.


Sounds insane. But his position and leverage are unlike any person has had in history.


And I'm pretty confident he'll do nothing of the sort. And GGG should just apply the rules and ban. It's what any player would and should expect, him too. It would just literally do everyone a favor.

Who cares. Letting someone live in your head rent free like that is weird.

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rrogan17#2926 wrote:

Who cares. Letting someone live in your head rent free like that is weird.

You obviously care enough to post. Suggesting that someone who cheats should be banned isn't weird. What's weird is the apologist/gaslighting/DARVO tactics of people like yourself that always follow.