[SOLUTION] FIX FOUND FOR THE DEGRADING FPS & STUTTER OVER TIME!

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nocebo#2432 wrote:

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6_din_49#4066 wrote:

Are we in the 90s? How much memory can a bunch of messages fill? 2MB? 5MB? 10MB?

My whole Client.txt has 42MB, and I've played this game for hundreds of hours.

The issue is explained in the video. It's about updating everything at the same time on a growing list...

It's a 23min video about C++ memory allocations, how does this help? Have you seen the PoE2 code?

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6_din_49#4066 wrote:

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nocebo#2432 wrote:

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6_din_49#4066 wrote:

Are we in the 90s? How much memory can a bunch of messages fill? 2MB? 5MB? 10MB?

My whole Client.txt has 42MB, and I've played this game for hundreds of hours.

The issue is explained in the video. It's about updating everything at the same time on a growing list...

It's a 23min video about C++ memory allocations, how does this help? Have you seen the PoE2 code?

It's the likeliest reason, since it would lead to this and it's a very common mistake.

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Seyfzone#9724 wrote:

Command /clear is just clearing the global chat screen. There is no way this will fix anything life FPS drop or screen tearing xDDDD.

You would be surprised how many games I have seen that have dumb GUI bugs where all text continue to be rendered even when it should be hidden. When you have several thousands of lines that can add up quite fast. Ultimate admirals dreadgoughts had the same bug (I detected and reported to them) all their damage messages kepts beinf rendered, even if to outside the screen hours after the damage had been done. Resulting in hundreds of thousands of uneeded render calls.

So it is not impossible.

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 wrote:

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Seyfzone#9724 wrote:

Command /clear is just clearing the global chat screen. There is no way this will fix anything life FPS drop or screen tearing xDDDD.

You would be surprised how many games I have seen that have dumb GUI bugs where all text continue to be rendered even when it should be hidden. When you have several thousands of lines that can add up quite fast. Ultimate admirals dreadgoughts had the same bug (I detected and reported to them) all their damage messages kepts beinf rendered, even if to outside the screen hours after the damage had been done. Resulting in hundreds of thousands of uneeded render calls.

So it is not impossible.

This indeed.

I tested the new nVidia drivers, which I did not expect to have any link to this issue - and they don't.

The FPS degradation with chat is still present. After chatting a while, it's easiest to notice the effect by spamming enter (opening / closing the chat). This (frame time increases -> FPS drops) occur a lot sooner than by simply gaming the game with chat open.

After /clear you will not see any effect by opening/closing chat.

I also noticed that opening any UX/UI window like inventory, skills etc - will "trigger" the same effect as opening the chat, when there's chat rows present.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

nothing in this thread makes sense... is this some kind of reddit humor?

It doesn't make any sense... TO YOU.

*Mostly because you do not get how it works.*

It makes a lot of sense.

What helped for me was disabling C-states on CPU in BIOS, for some reason when mapping game not consuming full CPU potential, it never happened in other games, but here seems like there is some kind of delay between action>idle>action, tried everything else, graphic settings, power settings, cache clearing, chat stuff, also windows is fresh and bios & drivers up to date as I upgraded SSD few months earlier as I needed more space.

8700K & RTX 3060ti

Now I have 0 stutter and mostly smooth experience, unless there is a lot of combat, but still for an old setup like this ~90 FPS average lowest 50, highest 140
(It works only on K cpu)

Global 42 checking in

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sebzzz#6019 wrote:

Global 42 checking in

Hear hear!

-Selas


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By keeping the chat closed, removing voice line verbose on local (and keeping that disabled too) - I haven't had any issues with the FPS degradation anymore.

Whispers eventually lead to same issue; so I still do start maps with /clear though.

I really wish GGG would notice this. I did message @Kevin_GGG and asked if he could convey the message to the devs, but got no confirmation.

This thread should be kept alive, as people are completely unaware of the /clear -fix.