What point in SSF?
" It's for streamers that want to do "my build is op" videos and want a badge of immunity against "you did RMT loser" . "Go buy a supporter pack and I might take you seriously." ~ Generic PoE whale https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/25976591 ICE BELL RINGER ~ Endgame Farming ~ Pinnacle Eraser ~ Gamepad Gameplay ~ Low Budget ~ 0.1.1 Version https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3705057 Last edited by Ashyev#5110 on Jan 18, 2025, 6:53:34 AM
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" yeah, god. its hell now. SSF general chat was so nice. now its nothing but constant price checks. |
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The point is to play it and have fun?
Personally, i only like using gear i found/crafted myself. It's a big part of why i find this game fun. Trading can also be fun, but it feels like I'm bypassing one of my favourite parts of the game by doing so. And for people that complain that progress is slower then on trade? duh. doesn't mean it needs all the loot drops rebalanced so SSF and Trade characters are equally powerful. I play on trade league with self imposed SSF though, It's a personal challenge so i dont need the leaderboard - but man is trade league chat bad sometimes. Every discussion is always interuppted by: "[piece of trash] pc?" "1ex" "1ex" "100div" "1ex" "25ex" "omg, thats mirror tier" *5 more minutes of annoying banter" |
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In this game SSF is only for self accomplishment.
GGG does not like the SSF style of play, therefore will only balance around trade. The only reason they gave us the SSF option (in POE 1; not sure how that is in POE 2) was because some of us insisted too much. It's only in name, like a fake badge to show off. Although not popular enough Last Epoch is the game that nailed SSF; and I wish more devs take that approach. Last edited by lupasvasile#5385 on Jan 18, 2025, 1:28:41 PM
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" in fairness they say in the trade manifesto that most players play self found and they do not make trade easy ie and auction house because if they did they would have to balance the drops for trade. so theyre saying the drops in general are not balanced around trade. ive heard chris say multiple times that the most fun way to play the game is self found. poe1 is not balanced for trade, if you trade a lot in poe1 your gear is stupidly strong and you just obliterate all content with no challenge. theres a handful of ultra chase uniques that are the most rare thing a couple of uber pin bosses drop that are balanced around keeping them valuable in trade. but 99% of the drop pool works perfectly in ssf and is completely unbalanced if you trade. if i play trade league in poe1 i can run 10 tier 1 maps and with the orbs that drop buy a gear set on the market that can beat all the uber bosses in the game. its absurdly unbalanced, if you trade in poe1 the game is a complete joke. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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" The problem is that it FEELS like balancing is done around trade. Because the gap between trade and SSF is too large. Sure, they can never be equal (well, they could, but then we'd have D4), but at least make stuff actually drop in SSF. When only 1 in 10000 items that drop, is actually useful for your build then the game just feels bad. Last edited by lupasvasile#5385 on Jan 18, 2025, 1:50:40 PM
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"What's the point in Hardcore league? You just die once and you have to start the game all over again levelling up from the beach. Do you get any extra loot or compensation in Hardcore to account for this?"
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" Like it's something bad in D4 - I playing it and able to collect ANY build just from self loot items And ONLY if I would want to do an EXCEPTIONAL minmaxing - only then I would need to look at trade market. Just see the difference: POE - make build at least possible and/or working vs D4 - ultra minmaxing Auctioneer House - is a MUST! 'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313 Last edited by SilverWF#6383 on Feb 19, 2025, 4:43:02 AM
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Drops are fine without trading anyway, currencies drops enough that you can craft tons of gear and eventually get good gear. You can progress and be succesful without trades, it just take more time.
Tech guy
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Please keep in mind that we don't really have to blow a dog whistle to communicate.
If I care about others or myself, I do so myself. It's SSF. Edit GGG made a friendly reminder to people without forcing/breaching identities. LOGIN GAMERS Everything I do should be wrong so please correct me if I do it right <3 Stop Bombing Moment Joon 【Passport & Garcon】https://bit.ly/2wXiUSj MonoNeon 【Put On Earth For You】https://bit.ly/3I22mru Last edited by finisterre#5659 on Feb 20, 2025, 8:56:37 PM
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