The 3 easiest Div factories all have 1 thing in common

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oestergreen#1184 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

validation validated.
confirmation confirmed!

please go on! :D

None of your angry word throwup, explains why you think you're a victim for clicking "accept trade" without checking what you're trading.

You are actually FORCED to hover items in trade window, BEFORE you can click accept.. so you're not only doing it, you're doing it and STILL not reading if its the item you you wanted to trade for LOL... and then you're the victim HEHE XD

really? oh tell me more! i would never have known!

Most scams in existence rely on inept or lazy end-users, that doesn't make them not scams. The fact that the game makes you mouseover items does not make it less of a scam.

If scams didn't work, people wouldn't scam. If scams led to bans, people wouldn't scam. If GGG said "no scamming" tomorrow, the practice would be dead in the water tomorrow. At that exact point onward, every trade that came from the website could be immediately checked against the trade that took place.

The singular reason GGG allows scamming is because they would have to pay someone to follow up on the reports, and it's easier to let the community continue blaming victims like in this thread.

I have never, ever been scammed in PoE, and I can still say with complete certainty that there is zero reason for scamming to exist in PoE. It is a bad choice to allow it.

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Pathological#1188 wrote:

Most scams in existence rely on inept or lazy end-users, that doesn't make them not scams. The fact that the game makes you mouseover items does not make it less of a scam.

If scams didn't work, people wouldn't scam. If scams led to bans, people wouldn't scam. If GGG said "no scamming" tomorrow, the practice would be dead in the water tomorrow. At that exact point onward, every trade that came from the website could be immediately checked against the trade that took place.

The singular reason GGG allows scamming is because they would have to pay someone to follow up on the reports, and it's easier to let the community continue blaming victims like in this thread.

I have never, ever been scammed in PoE, and I can still say with complete certainty that there is zero reason for scamming to exist in PoE. It is a bad choice to allow it.

Now try to think rationally and lets play out your scenario where GGG bans people for clicking "accept trade".

You're saying that you agree the trade window prevents scams and so scammers rely on lazy/inept people in order to scam (your own words), i.e. people who don't bother reading and just click accept blindly.

So, lets say you get "scammed" in this way and you report the other guy.
GGG bans him.

Ok, what happens when someone exits a map with a full inventory to do a trade and accidentally ctrl-clicks the wrong wand into the trade window and the other user clicks accept without reading because he's lazy.

Neither of these 2 ppl are deceptive scammers, but suddenly, maybe a minute later the guy who got the wrong wand, realizes it when equipping it and then reports the other guy for trade scamming.

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This is a very real scenario that literally happens and how should GGG prove when someone DECEPTIVELY tries to trade the wrong item, vs someone making a legit mistake?

And what level of responsibility should fall on the guy for accepting the wrong trade without reading the item HE wanted to buy?

Oh ok, see? this is why GGG has very normal and adult rules...
Rules that say, you are responsible for checking items in trade when you buy something and click "accept trade" ... and if you don't bother doing that and you end up with a fake item, the fault lies not in the system, but in YOU.

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oestergreen#1184 wrote:

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

what lawless hellhole do you live in that deceptive behaviour is the norm? or are you just Hard RP here as the Shadow from poe1?

Oh my god.
Did you just get internet in 2025?

There's a reason a trade window exists.
There's a reason the trade window cancels the "accept button" when someone changes any item or currency in the window.

What hellhole are you trying to live in, where nobody takes any accountability and just calls themselves victims when reality just is that they are too lazy to move their cursor to the item and check what they're buying BEFORE they click accept on the trade? LOL

Seriously ... what do you want GGG to do?
Cure the world from deceptive people who take advantage of lazy users that won't even check what they're trading before they click it? lmao, seriously.

GGG doesn't need to do anything because they provided measure to help players against scams. so if they get scammed its on them. its a video game so its not a real crime, but you are trying to pass up clearly deceptive behaviour=scams as normal=not scams, hence my curiosity about your environment

i wonder why governments require motorcyclists to wear helmets and fine those who dont wear them.

surely motorcyclists are adults that can make conscious decisions to check things properly and never ever make mistakes in their lives.

but i ll guess i ll never know. people should be responsible for their mistakes. who needs safeguards amirite?

:D

1. Run breach
2. Run breach with a build that clears the screen
3. Run breach with a build that clears the screen and has IIR

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exsea#1724 wrote:

i wonder why governments require motorcyclists to wear helmets and fine those who dont wear them.

surely motorcyclists are adults that can make conscious decisions to check things properly and never ever make mistakes in their lives.

but i ll guess i ll never know. people should be responsible for their mistakes. who needs safeguards amirite?

:D

litagation, and possible stain on taxpayer (the governments money) when they dont pay their hospital bills. It's not out of some moral imperative or concern for people.

The only bad thing that can possibly happen to GGG is losing potential money the person might have spent if getting scammed leads them to quitting the game forever, which is unlikely.

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exsea#1724 wrote:

i wonder why governments require motorcyclists to wear helmets and fine those who dont wear them.

surely motorcyclists are adults that can make conscious decisions to check things properly and never ever make mistakes in their lives.

but i ll guess i ll never know. people should be responsible for their mistakes. who needs safeguards amirite?

:D

most of such regulations are just PR/liability protections/or sources of income for the government unfortunately. ever wondered why a 'chopper helmet' is ok even tho its a literal metal can? and they don't even check certs on most helmets? that shit is on you, together with a proper jacket

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BossOfThisGym#2062 wrote:

litagation, and possible stain on taxpayer (the governments money) when they dont pay their hospital bills. It's not out of some moral imperative or concern for people.

lol i don't think the government minds 'strain on taxpayer' in fact i'm pretty sure that's their business. if what you said was true sugar and fast food will be as heavily regulated

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BossOfThisGym#2062 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

i wonder why governments require motorcyclists to wear helmets and fine those who dont wear them.

surely motorcyclists are adults that can make conscious decisions to check things properly and never ever make mistakes in their lives.

but i ll guess i ll never know. people should be responsible for their mistakes. who needs safeguards amirite?

:D

litagation, and possible stain on taxpayer (the governments money) when they dont pay their hospital bills. It's not out of some moral imperative or concern for people.

The only bad thing that can possibly happen to GGG is losing potential money the person might have spent if getting scammed leads them to quitting the game forever, which is unlikely.

maybe for the old players yes. old players grew with poe and got hooked as they played for years.

ggg put so much hard work and effort into making poe2 accessible its weird that they would introduce a reason for players to rage quit.

if they just solved it, it would shut people like me up and everyone else that shares the same sentiment for that matter. which also "reduces strain on taxpayers" since ggg doesnt need to deal with players ragequitting or posting about them getting scammed.

so in a way its similar where its not necessarily out of moral imperative. but as of concern for people? ggg should be more concerned as more happy players can be converted to more happy payers.