Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

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Ovari#3383 wrote:

-10% exp exists for a reason? then why does it arbitrarily start at lvl 70? What's so special about it? The only reason it exists is to annoy people.

its there to tell people that their build sucks. if you want to die through the maps and content and still be rewarded with the same results as somebody else with a good character, the fault is on you, not the xp loss.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Literally doesn't matter what the devs "intentions" are with exp loss. This mechanic is failing to do the very things that GGG wants it to do.

It does not encourage players to "fix their build".
It in fact does the opposite, discourage people and make them want to quit. Good job. Amazing mechanic. That is a failure of game design, nothing else.

So yes, people are absolutely right when they say exp loss only exists to waste your time. That's all it does.

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

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Ovari#3383 wrote:

-10% exp exists for a reason? then why does it arbitrarily start at lvl 70? What's so special about it? The only reason it exists is to annoy people.

its there to tell people that their build sucks. if you want to die through the maps and content and still be rewarded with the same results as somebody else with a good character, the fault is on you, not the xp loss.

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Ovari#3383 wrote:

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

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Ovari#3383 wrote:

-10% exp exists for a reason? then why does it arbitrarily start at lvl 70? What's so special about it? The only reason it exists is to annoy people.

its there to tell people that their build sucks. if you want to die through the maps and content and still be rewarded with the same results as somebody else with a good character, the fault is on you, not the xp loss.

How exactly does it work? Does "your build sucks" message appear? Your point is kinda... unconvincing.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Literally doesn't matter what the devs "intentions" are with exp loss. This mechanic is failing to do the very things that GGG wants it to do.

It does not encourage players to "fix their build".
It in fact does the opposite, discourage people and make them want to quit. Good job. Amazing mechanic. That is a failure of game design, nothing else.

So yes, people are absolutely right when they say exp loss only exists to waste your time. That's all it does.

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mrfox123#7595 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Literally doesn't matter what the devs "intentions" are with exp loss. This mechanic is failing to do the very things that GGG wants it to do.

It does not encourage players to "fix their build".
It in fact does the opposite, discourage people and make them want to quit. Good job. Amazing mechanic. That is a failure of game design, nothing else.

So yes, people are absolutely right when they say exp loss only exists to waste your time. That's all it does.

Yup, in poe a few leagues back i finally got around and had a mostly self made goofy volatile dead build. Could clear t15 maps and while slow for bosses, could still get them down.

So i thought to myself, finally this will be the time i will chill and get my first lvl 100, without paying the afk exp services... Had to give up at 96 since 1 levels simply took far too long to do, least from the safe maps. And whenever i wanted to have fun with some juiced maps i would unsurprisingly get blow up by a random on-death effect or some other good knows what thing. And safe to say, you can't see shit with max orbs of volatile dead flying all over the place, but it was glorious to see.

Hours to get 1 bar of exp, a second to lose multiple.

Nothing hard or anything, just an insane time waster with and insane punishment from the devs.

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mrfox123#7595 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Literally doesn't matter what the devs "intentions" are with exp loss. This mechanic is failing to do the very things that GGG wants it to do.

It does not encourage players to "fix their build".
It in fact does the opposite, discourage people and make them want to quit. Good job. Amazing mechanic. That is a failure of game design, nothing else.

So yes, people are absolutely right when they say exp loss only exists to waste your time. That's all it does.

Yup, in poe a few leagues back i finally got around and had a mostly self made goofy volatile dead build. Could clear t15 maps and while slow for bosses, could still get them down.

So i thought to myself, finally this will be the time i will chill and get my first lvl 100, without paying the afk exp services... Had to give up at 96 since 1 levels simply took far too long to do, least from the safe maps. And whenever i wanted to have fun with some juiced maps i would unsurprisingly get blow up by a random on-death effect or some other good knows what thing. And safe to say, you can't see shit with max orbs of volatile dead flying all over the place, but it was glorious to see.

Hours to get 1 bar of exp, a second to lose multiple.

Nothing hard or anything, just an insane time waster with and insane punishment from the devs.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

So is this about your frustration of not getting to 100? I don't get why you would waste paying for a service for them to level you. Is getting to 100 that meaningful to you? Is that why you're that aggressive with your replies because of your frustration?

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

So is this about your frustration of not getting to 100? I don't get why you would waste paying for a service for them to level you. Is getting to 100 that meaningful to you? Is that why you're that aggressive with your replies because of your frustration?

Yes, people would rather pay 5 divs per 5 runs of legion exp rotas while having their game window in 800x600 and watching something on their 2nd monitor, because that's much more fun than engaging with a game that actively wastes your time by deleting 10% of your exp.

These are numbers and facts, this is why exp carries are so popular, this is why they have dedicated channels for it in TFT and this is why people get rich af by doing legion rotas,breachstone exp runs,boss carries and the list goes on. This is also why people even ask for free exp leech groups in global chat, its just the meta that emerged because of exp loss being such trash design.

That's a problem purely created by the game's bad design, it is forcing players into playing a certain way and making certain choices. It's up to the devs to fix it. Or not. Nobody cares about lvl100 being an "achievement", its just another checkmark to fill if you want some extra skill points.