Exp loss on death topics are getting out of hand.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Surely there aren't a vast majority of players who are also complaining about all these problems. Surely.

It's also just "your opinion" that they're good for the game. It will be changed or the game will just die eventually.

Stop putting words on someone else's post. If you're not going to read and understand the entirety of my post then why bother replying here? FYI, The point of this post is about the absurdities that people are saying about -10% exp loss. I neither said I am in favor nor disagree with removing it. I can sympathize with people, wanting to play and login and turn off their brain and just farm. I am saying that there is a reason for the -10% exp loss on death.

Again and quoting, there is a big difference in being okay with it/explaining and understanding why is it in place.

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Zomboden#9869 wrote:

I used to die a lot whenever I was trying to play with armor and life. Even with max res those white mobs that summon meteors would one shot me.

I switched to energy shield and grim feast and now I almost never die.

And when I think I'm in a bad situation and I'm at risk of death I just hit pause and log out and back in to avoid death.

I run 6 mod t15/16 corrupted/double corrupted maps and I don't even look at the damage mods

And I'm not running a meta build. It's just a home brewed melee minions setup. I'm walking face first into mob packs to get my minions to spawn on me because they get stuck in hallways.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Surely there aren't a vast majority of players who are also complaining about all these problems. Surely.

It's also just "your opinion" that they're good for the game. It will be changed or the game will just die eventually.

Stop putting words on someone else's post. If you're not going to read and understand the entirety of my post then why bother replying here? FYI, The point of this post is about the absurdities that people are saying about -10% exp loss. I neither said I am in favor nor disagree with removing it. I can sympathize with people, wanting to play and login and turn off their brain and just farm. I am saying that there is a reason for the -10% exp loss on death.

Again and quoting, there is a big difference in being okay with it/explaining and understanding why is it in place.

By saying that there is a reason for it to be in the game, you are basically defending it. It's either you're for or against it. What's even the point of a post like this then? The reasons for any death penalty is to just screw the player over and inflate playtime, nothing more nothing less.

If you're so neutral about it then why care if people are asking for it to be removed then? It doesn't affect you right?

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

I don't care what you say, none of these death penalties are defendable in any way. They're bad. Absolutely trash game design that should have died 20 years ago. Let's see how long GGG can triple-down on their "Vision" before the game dies.

They are bad in your opinion. Sadly, the world nor the game doesn't revolve around you. Please do not ever generalize an opinion without some concrete proof.

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Zomboden#9869 wrote:

I used to die a lot whenever I was trying to play with armor and life. Even with max res those white mobs that summon meteors would one shot me.

I switched to energy shield and grim feast and now I almost never die.

And when I think I'm in a bad situation and I'm at risk of death I just hit pause and log out and back in to avoid death.

I run 6 mod t15/16 corrupted/double corrupted maps and I don't even look at the damage mods

And I'm not running a meta build. It's just a home brewed melee minions setup. I'm walking face first into mob packs to get my minions to spawn on me because they get stuck in hallways.

The problem with CI if you're not playing a minion build is physical defense mitigation. You have your minions shielding you and mobs targeting them instead of you, but if you don't play minions, you can easily die to stun lock even if you get those %es as stun threshold. Even at 10k pool, I can still easily die on delirious breach.

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outlander19900#0213 wrote:

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

I don't care what you say, none of these death penalties are defendable in any way. They're bad. Absolutely trash game design that should have died 20 years ago. Let's see how long GGG can triple-down on their "Vision" before the game dies.

They are bad in your opinion. Sadly, the world nor the game doesn't revolve around you. Please do not ever generalize an opinion without some concrete proof.

Well everything revolves around the majority which I'm sure is unfortunate for you. Plays dont want it then it should definitely be changed to suit us. Give the players what they want or they go elsewhere its incredibly simple and logical

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

You are hopeless to be blunt. Stating something because you understand why its there is very different from defending it. If you check my post history, I almost never reply to any exp loss on death thread and that's why I said "usually" neutral. Do you even try to comprehend the context I am trying to get across?

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

not everything player want is good for the game. xp loss is in fact good for the game, no matter if you like it or not. there is a reason for it and it has to stay.

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outlander19900#0213 wrote:

Well everything revolves around the majority which I'm sure is unfortunate for you. Plays dont want it then it should definitely be changed to suit us. Give the players what they want or they go elsewhere its incredibly simple and logical

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Pl4t1numX#4325 wrote:

not everything player want is good for the game. xp loss is in fact good for the game, no matter if you like it or not. there is a reason for it and it has to stay.

Because we've all seen what happens to these "game companies" that are always like "we know better than the player, we know what's best for you". I'm sure GGG's "Vision" is gonna be great for this game. Exp loss is toxic,anti-fun "we hate the player" game design. That's the only thing it is and ever will be.