Greater and Perfect Jeweller's Orbs are TOO RARE

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__MaX__#5861 wrote:

Or maybe, just maybe... it can be a either:

- 1, balancing needed. We're one week in, in an EA. Kind of standard.
- 2, designers trying to scream at your face "you don't need that".

If it's #1, then they need to hear this feedback, that's the entire point of this thread and posting feedback in it. It's pretty clueless to respond to every feedback post and try and invalidate the feedback by saying "iTs EaRlY acCesS" like no shit, that's the point of posting feedback...

Agree that it could be #2, but I hope that's not the case. If it is, my feedback is: Make the game so you do NEED it, and improve the drop rate.

Rationale being having those orbs gives exponentially more flexibility in making cool builds, and opens up many options for making more variety in cool and fun builds.

The entire purpose of this game is to make cool and fun builds imo. So if the game was made in such a way that you don't "NEED" to have as cool or fun of a build, they should change it so you can... wait for it... make more cool and fun builds.

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DatSexyAnon#3061 wrote:

Level 81, found one greater orb in a T7 map 10 hours ago. Nothing since.

lvl 81, 1 greater jeweler orb, 1 divine orb...looking at the prices right now and considering the fact that i played every day since release at least for a little bit each day i am already seeing trade being completely annihilated by rmt, 3rd party cross trading and try hard group play.

We need an alternative mode to sc trade an SSF mode 2.0...Nobody will miss the "magical moment" to trade in this game, if SSF doesn't require you to play 24/7 each day and process information like an idiot savant to get a decent gear upgrade...

I would definitely like to see increased drop chance on these.

Currently, getting a 6L is considerably less likely than in poe1.

Admittedly, we also have very few supports so it's not that bad, and you can get a 5l by vaaling the 4l, but that itself feels weird since it's so much easier than just finding a greater orb.

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

If it's #1, then they need to hear this feedback, that's the entire point of this thread and posting feedback in it. It's pretty clueless to respond to every feedback post and try and invalidate the feedback by saying "iTs EaRlY acCesS" like no shit, that's the point of posting feedback...

Maybe people should chill a bit and not see every subsequent answer like it's trying to invalidate the original post or undermine their initial thought(s). My #1 is just a remark to underline the fact that we're talking about an EA not even 15 days old... which induce potential heavy changes along the dev time and overall scope of the EA.

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

Agree that it could be #2, but I hope that's not the case. If it is, my feedback is: Make the game so you do NEED it, and improve the drop rate.

Rationale being having those orbs gives exponentially more flexibility in making cool builds, and opens up many options for making more variety in cool and fun builds.

The entire purpose of this game is to make cool and fun builds imo. So if the game was made in such a way that you don't "NEED" to have as cool or fun of a build, they should change it so you can... wait for it... make more cool and fun builds.

This is somewhat the same discussion/approach as the level 100. PoE 1 is over 10yo, and every league, you always have new players whining about the "I can't reach the 100 with that xp loss" when everyone knows that a build is finished at 92 most of the time.

This is some FOMO situation, and if a build is über-solid with 4Ls and the balancing stays that way... acquiring 5 and 6Ls can be done through the economy. The player can then try to find the best way to acquire currency to trade it. Just like a player can be carried to reach 100.

Even tho I hear what you're saying and your opinion/approach is totally valid. If there is no clear "wall" preventing you from reaching bosses and pinnacle bosses with 4Ls, it means the design works. The missing links is only a question of "am I ready to farm enough to get them another way than dropping the currency" just for the cherry on top.

The fact that we could feel frustrated of not getting six links is because of our experience with PoE 1. But we should always keep in mind that PoE 2 is a different game and rules are bent towards new design choices.

What makes people come back to PoE is because there's always a challenge to overcome. In the case of links, if for a league you don't drop the jewellers OR you can't buy them. Then next league it is :)
It's a goal like any other.

All that said, I'm just playing devil's advocate here because discussing design with people is always interesting. Factually, you are not limited by the sockets like we were in PoE 1... at least, I do not feel that way with a ranger class at mid atlas progression. The game can still prove me wrong in the other half of the endgame.

If that's the case, I'll gladly come back here and say I was wrong ;)

Level 69. Just found my first 5 link orb.

I've never found a 4 link jeweler though.

I'm running maps with full 3 links god help me.

Level 90. Found 6 greater jeweler's drops, zero perfect jewelers.

If I don't find a perfect jewelers by level 90, something is wrong here with the odds.

It was way easier to get a 6L in PoE1, and that includes correct socket colors. If the purpose was to make a less annoying system for PoE2, they failed miserably.

Lvl 82 and found one greater, zero perfect.
Don't even have the currency to buy enough for my main skill setup.
It's beyond stupid.

A greater costs something like 40 exalts? Disgusting.

6? I'm now 83 and still zero/zero.

Lvl 77, i have found 18 lesser orbs and zero above it.

>6 days played and I've found 1 perfect and 4 greaters. The perfect was during the campaign in act 3 cruel. I used it and the skill I used it on was immediately nerfed. I have two level 90+ characters. I've found 12 divines in this time so the perfect ones are pretty rare.