Why POE2’s Direction Is Worrying for Veterans and Newcomers Alike

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youshisu#1679 wrote:

Poe 1 is still playable xd go play it if you like it more.

Also, reading your post made me realis, you are unaware this game is not finished.
Here is my message to you Poe 2 is early access which means it is unfinished

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

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Omegasybers#0029 wrote:

[PoE2's] foundation is just an inprovement of PoE1 in practially every way.

Really, i can't stand this anymore.
- How is triple punishment with extra tinsel an improvement? It's the opposite: players won't use their own builds but heavily rely on the metas to reduce the possibility of punishments!
- How is completely mindless casino crafting an improvement?
- How is not dropping currency encouraging players to 'craft'?
- How is 1-death-game-over encouraging players to get the 'souls' vibe, when being one-shotted by something they didn't have on screen, cause they can't craft items to prevent this?

I really want to understand people writing this. Graphics are the only improvement. The rest is an exact copy of PoE1 without crafting, without loot and without movement speed.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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Omegasybers#0029 wrote:

In my opinion the combat is a LOT more engaging. And that was the goal. It is harder, because you can't just screenclear and oneshot everything. The combat is more methodical and thus demands more attention, care and skill from the average player. Or it is what Jonathan wants it to be. Some builds just don't stick to those (theoretical) norms.

Yes, the combat is more methodical and requires more attention. But when people want this to be their new "10k hours game", where we WANT to come back league after league to spend hundred of hours running maps, you got to ask yourself; are they requiring us to pay too much attention?

I'm all for slower, more methodical combat. In isolation, it's a great change. But when we add in more aspects, it just gets too much for a lot of players.

1) Bigger and more maze-like maps in addition to the slower combat.
2) Losing hours/days of farming/preparing in the endgame due to ONE mistake require you to be on your toes ALL the time.
3) A larger, longer and more time/attention consuming campaign.

The end result of this will inevitably be that ALL players rush the most broken stuff even more than they did in PoE 1.

I've spent close to 10k hours in PoE. When it comes to my ARPGs, I only play titles that I can REALLY sink my time into, and where I feel that my time spent equals progression. I know for a fact that if GGG will be stubborn on map layouts, map sizes and one portal, forcing me to constantly be on my toes, I won't be playing a single league. And that is sad, because PoE 2 has HUGE potential, but in my eyes crappy longevity as of now.

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Omegasybers#0029 wrote:

I do think there are some improvements to be made. Especially the one portal thing and some mechanics being infinitly more punishing than others. There need to be some tweaking happening, but I also think that PoE2's campaign being a challenge is actaully a good thing. Filering players that aren't willing to engage with mechanics/the game and sink their time into it literally within the first hour is a good thing for this F2P title

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Nothv13#0740 wrote:

A F2P title filtering players so quickly is never a good thing. F2P requires both whales and non whales. It needs as many of each as possible. Actively trying to reduce the population of live service games is a terrible choice