What happened to Chris Wilson?

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exsea#1724 wrote:

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

Which spirit? When Chris decided to nuke Exalts and swapped to Divines? That spirit when he basically stated that he doesn't care about the players?

Nothing changed, either with or without Chris. Leagues always have been hits and miss.

paraphrasing his response to standard players who lost a huge amount of value due to the switch

"you should have diversified your investment".

i used to love the guy until he said that with a seemingly tongue in cheek attitude.

on adjacent topic. i was one of GGG's defenders who kept defending them, whenever people kept saying "GGG promised that poe2 would not affect poe1" i kept telling them. no, you're misremembering. this is what ggg said about ruthless NOT poe2 v poe1.

in fact i challenged people to find me proof of when GGG actually ever said that. and many have tried but failed. every clip people posted was of GGG carefully wording their statements saying something along the lines of "GGG will support POE1 as much as possible" without actually stating that.

then one fine day after being smug and pointing this out to people again, feeling confident that i m right and everyone else is wrong. someone actually gave proof.

in the clip, its chris, who actually says this. omfg lols

i've been wrong all the while. all this because of chris's promise.

in any case, despite me being not happy with him. i do understand and appreciate that he's candid with his responses. not everyone can stand infront of a mic and talk. but i would appreciate it more if more care was given to standard.

there were ways GGG could have helped standard players out.

they could have made standard only npcs such as perandus npc which could be rerolled at a cost. kept navali inside with easier ways to reroll all prophecies. an npc that sells divines for exalts and vice versa. kept alt quality gems as legacy gems. retained cluster passive nodes as legacy while introducing newer ones to replace the legacy ones on newer jewels.

but no. fuck standard.

and most of you temp loving poe1 players didnt give a flying fuck about standard. now that poe1 temp league is sidelined, suddenly you guys are all concerned.

asking for chris? chris was at the helm when standard got recklessly disrespected.

first time? meme.gif

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revalk1971#6558 wrote:

I think there was a soft coup, though not by design, more dictated by events; good people do bad stuff and so on.
If his contract were terminated, surely you find evidence of that, somewhere. It's not there.

Of course all of this is amenable, but all parties have to be willing. Jonathan is managing director, Mark moves to PoE 2, Chris returns as the managing director for all the programmers among the streameers. That way, Mark and Jonathan have their hands free and the cycle for PoE 1 can continue with hopefully two leagues a year.
So many of you seem stuck in "we need a plan". I never understand what keeps you from "we need this plan". It's easy. [Removed by Support]

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superbomb1967#5561 wrote:

Tencent is turning the poe into mobile garbage.

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AngryGekko#0233 wrote:

Guys, i dont wanna disturb worshipping Chris, but...
Am i the only one witnessing that PoE2 is EXACTLY the game Chris Wilson's dream of 'Ruthless' was all about? It's the EXACT copy of Ruthless 2 years ago, with it's insane punishment, casino crafting and git gud arenas.

Not a single mentally intact businessman would EVER call poe2's base concept a solid foundation for an arpg supporting f2p seasonal restarts. The campaign is of exhausting length, the missing loot is demotivating, the casino crafting is demotivating, the insane exp punishment is demotivating, the 1-death-per-map is demotivating, the skill tree doesn't have depth that could be motivating, the walking distances are demotivating.

Everyone can critizise Tencent, but for one thing: they DO know how to make money. And all the stuff above is not a way to make money, it's the complete opposite: a game that will fail as a seasonal installment with so much demotivational content. It's Chris Wilson's ruthless vision. I doubt even at GGG there has EVER been a single employee agreeing to this direction. Chris Wilson was OBSESSED by this idea, you can read about it anywhere, he was ready to DIE on that hill, even if this direction will ruin the game.

And now, two years later, despite of all the community's disagreement regarding his ruthless vision back then, a company famous for making money is settling on this pure insanity of an arpg idea? Really? Although nobody (and i bet even at GGG: nobody) will call this a solid vision ensuring longterm retention for PoE2? I don't know guys, but it seems to me PoE2 is ALL about Chris Wilson still influencing, still stubbornly ignoring the fact that his vision will not work. It seems to me, that he is still the only person fighting to die on that hill for a vision nobody wants. And it seems to me, he's clearly in position to push PoE2 into this direction, no matter the costs.

I can not see a company with rational eonomic incentives would in any way ever accept such a mess of direction.

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vio#1992 wrote:

you're (unfortunately) not the only one who doesn't understand that good games not easily give players what the want if you as a game dev want them to stick around.

sure, you lose some players on the way cause they just give up cause they grew up being permanently gratified for every fart they did but you get gamers stick to your game.

and that's what game companies want, a fanbase of gamers not shortterm players.