Let's ask the real Question: Is PoE2 a better game than PoE1?

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Ulsarek#7159 wrote:

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Destructodave#2478 wrote:

What Arpgs did PoE kill? It didnt kill D3 or D4.

Time and lack of expansions is the only thing that killed D3, and contrary to popular belief, D4 is actually popular outside of this forum.

Honestly, for what it was, D3 was also a good game. Initially RoS was well received and it took them a couple seasons before powercreep got out of control. But even then, it was fun every now and then. Nothing ground breaking but the good old reliable, checking out the new seasons here and there, blasting some grifts and giving the changed / new builds or sets a spin.

D4 is in a similar boat. I don't get the constant need to compare ARPG X to Y and vice versa, each and every game fits their own niche and is good at that.

I just dislike the constant revisionist history people do here to downplay D3 during its heyday. People love to talk about 2020+ D3 to PoE comparisons but completely ignore 2012 to about 2019. Thats when PoE started picking up steam and 2014 RoS was nearly played out by that point.

It has been very much a Tortoise and the Hair scenario. PoE with its live service model and constant new content eventually overtook an old expansion-based model after about 5-6 years. Go figure.

Now, I love PoE; I have been here off and on for awhile. But I also liked D3(Not a fan of D4 but can acknowledge a lot of people are). I constantly see people pretend that D3 was always bad and never popular on these forums all the time because they look at it from a 2020+ perspective and ignore how it really was before then.

PoE was always the more niche and less mainstream title, and PoE did not "kill" D3. Time killed D3. PoE isnt even killing D4.

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hasatt0#7256 wrote:

Because if it's not, then we all know how many ARPGs PoE1 killed in the last decade ;)

Spoiler

Unless, PoE2 is just another souls-like, in which case; carry on ;)

depends on who you ask xD i don't think poe2 comes even close but yeah still early. it might beat it when it's done.

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Necrotekk#4404 wrote:

After getting to cruel, PoE2 is a pretty tedious ARPG but it seems it has aspirations of being a Souls like game, which, by comparison, it also isn't the greatest at. If I Wanted to play Elden Ring or Souls....I'd just go play those infinitely better games?

They got big open maps like souls games, but forgot most souls games had more than 2-3 extra things to find.

They got dodge rolling, but pretty much compensated by spamming AOEs all over rather than anything coordinated.

They have build diversity, but locked it behind 40 levels of really tedious gameplay before you get some real options for skills.

I pretty much called it quits when I realized endgame maps are 1 death cause I just don't really care and would rather play PoE1 at that point.

All it did well was make me want to play Elden Ring again cause as an ARPG, this is missing a lot of what I enjoyed from PoE1

That's a pretty accurate summarisation.

Not even close...