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I'm currently undecided whether to use either Elemental Discharge or Impetus for Cast on freeze. Which do you think is better?
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It feels to me like Impetus is better (Mana isn't a problem for me though it procs more often). Another advantage is that I haven't used or needed Cold Snap since then.
I haven’t tested Impetus in a while so there’s a good chance it’s just better, last time I tried using it I just didn’t have the mana regen to sustain the amount of comets coming down so I’ll have to test it myself and see now that I’ve leveled up and gotten better gear.
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Posted byKyleMasc#7189on Dec 11, 2024, 10:18:58 AM
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Im not quite clear on the Ascendancy points, just playing around with it:
Arcane Surge makes sense but force of will really does not give me much of a benefit.
Would Shaper of Storms not be a good goal in this case for the 3rd and 4th Ascendancy?
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Posted byAcored#0166on Dec 11, 2024, 10:33:40 AM
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Hi, sorry for the newbie question, but what does cast Frostbolt in a circular shape around you?
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Posted byband1k#4236on Dec 11, 2024, 10:42:27 AM
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Im not quite clear on the Ascendancy points, just playing around with it:
Arcane Surge makes sense but force of will really does not give me much of a benefit.
Would Shaper of Storms not be a good goal in this case for the 3rd and 4th Ascendancy?
I use Force of Will because of the stacking benefit from the amount of mana that I have. Having comets constantly being cast and chunking my mana the bonus mana regen from the increased arcane surge effect has been very helpful with that. I haven’t tried messing around with taking it off so I’ll have to see how my mana regen is without it, the cast speed is also very beneficial for getting out more Eye of Winters faster for freezing and applying the crit debuff.
I’m not 100% on the 3rd and 4th ascendancy point yet I’m just testing Elemental Storm to see how it does, as far as going Shaper of Storms wouldn’t you still need some kind of lightning damage somewhere to proc the shock chance? Or am I understanding that wrong and it will just let cold damage apply shock outright?
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Posted byKyleMasc#7189on Dec 11, 2024, 10:47:53 AM
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Hi, sorry for the newbie question, but what does cast Frostbolt in a circular shape around you?
That was a support gem I was messing around with and testing called Wildshards!
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Posted byKyleMasc#7189on Dec 11, 2024, 10:50:02 AM
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Im not quite clear on the Ascendancy points, just playing around with it:
Arcane Surge makes sense but force of will really does not give me much of a benefit.
Would Shaper of Storms not be a good goal in this case for the 3rd and 4th Ascendancy?
I’m not 100% on the 3rd and 4th ascendancy point yet I’m just testing Elemental Storm to see how it does, as far as going Shaper of Storms wouldn’t you still need some kind of lightning damage somewhere to proc the shock chance? Or am I understanding that wrong and it will just let cold damage apply shock outright?
yep, Shaper of Storms lets all damage contribute to shock stance
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Posted byAcored#0166on Dec 11, 2024, 11:18:06 AM
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Im not quite clear on the Ascendancy points, just playing around with it:
Arcane Surge makes sense but force of will really does not give me much of a benefit.
Would Shaper of Storms not be a good goal in this case for the 3rd and 4th Ascendancy?
I’m not 100% on the 3rd and 4th ascendancy point yet I’m just testing Elemental Storm to see how it does, as far as going Shaper of Storms wouldn’t you still need some kind of lightning damage somewhere to proc the shock chance? Or am I understanding that wrong and it will just let cold damage apply shock outright?
yep, Shaper of Storms lets all damage contribute to shock stance
Well damn, that’s some good info to have. I’ll have to do some messing around with my ascendancies and test some stuff then. Thanks for the heads up!
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Posted byKyleMasc#7189on Dec 11, 2024, 11:27:51 AM
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Yes Shaper of Storms will contribute like it was with the Elementalist previously :)
Guys how do you choose FB over EoW ?
I'm torn and cannot decide which one to use :D (I wanted to go with EoW but the freeze seems less consistent than on FB)
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Posted byJeagerX#4944on Dec 11, 2024, 11:44:31 AM
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Can someone help me and do the best gem links for 50 lvl ? I want to swap to this build from lightning build.
At level 50 you should be able to use everything with the Frost Bolt setup outside of maybe Arctic Armor because of the extra spirit requirement! Eye of Winter requires a bit more investment to use as a main freeze skill.
If you dont have the jewellers to get 3 sockets on your skills just drop whatever the last listed support gem is. If you're having too many mana issues with cast on freeze + comet just leave it off for now until you have better mana regen and just spam frostbolts + cold snaps for clearing!
Frostbolt + Scattershot + Glaciation + Blind
Cold Snap + Cold Penetration + Elemental Focus + Concentrated Effect
Frost Bomb + Fast Forward + strip away + Considered Casting
Cast on Freeze + Comet + Spell Cascade + Elemental Discharge(drop this if your mana regen cant help you sustain it)
Frost Wall + Echo + Ingenuity + Icicle
Hypothermia + Heightened Curse + Persistence
Comet + Unleash + Inevitable Critical + Supercritical
Regarding Elemental Discharge: how is this working? So for each of freeze/shock/ignite, it consumes it and does dmg for ~40% of int, so that's say 60 damage per. And this is treated as base spell damage? However given Comet is doing upwards of 1k base damage, this is like a 10% more damage gem (if you're consuming 2 ailments) that is also giving a serious downside of unfreezing things?
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Posted byaimlessgun#1443on Dec 11, 2024, 11:57:18 AMAlpha Member
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Can someone help me and do the best gem links for 50 lvl ? I want to swap to this build from lightning build.
At level 50 you should be able to use everything with the Frost Bolt setup outside of maybe Arctic Armor because of the extra spirit requirement! Eye of Winter requires a bit more investment to use as a main freeze skill.
If you dont have the jewellers to get 3 sockets on your skills just drop whatever the last listed support gem is. If you're having too many mana issues with cast on freeze + comet just leave it off for now until you have better mana regen and just spam frostbolts + cold snaps for clearing!
Frostbolt + Scattershot + Glaciation + Blind
Cold Snap + Cold Penetration + Elemental Focus + Concentrated Effect
Frost Bomb + Fast Forward + strip away + Considered Casting
Cast on Freeze + Comet + Spell Cascade + Elemental Discharge(drop this if your mana regen cant help you sustain it)
Frost Wall + Echo + Ingenuity + Icicle
Hypothermia + Heightened Curse + Persistence
Comet + Unleash + Inevitable Critical + Supercritical
Regarding Elemental Discharge: how is this working? So for each of freeze/shock/ignite, it consumes it and does dmg for ~40% of int, so that's say 60 damage per. And this is treated as base spell damage? However given Comet is doing upwards of 1k base damage, this is like a 10% more damage gem (if you're consuming 2 ailments) that is also giving a serious downside of unfreezing things?
To be honest I took elemental discharge there mostly because I was looking for just adding more damage to the flat damage hit and was struggling to find something I wasn’t already using on another skill.
However I plan to change gem links around quite a bit today to figure some stuff out so that link is likely to change, feel free to change it out for whatever else you like! That’s just what I slapped in there for the time being.
As for the gem consuming the freeze and unfreezing the enemies, it’s been a non-issue really. 95% of the time it kills the enemy it hits and if it doesn’t they usually just get refrozen instantly anyway from my Eye of Winter spam.
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Posted byKyleMasc#7189on Dec 11, 2024, 12:15:43 PM
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