[EA] Spark Stormweaver - Mana Stacking Archmage MoM+CI - freezing/electrocution

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Haseo666#4328 wrote:
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DeerFart#2293 wrote:
Well, at level 45 I decided to make the switch to the frost variant…

… it did not go well. I’m guessing I don’t have anywhere near the passive points to pull it off even though I have both unique items.

Now I am stuck in a spec where I struggle to kill mobs 10 levels lower than me and have no gold for a respec.

Which brings me to my question:

Can I follow someone around and pick up crap to sell so I can revert? lol. Actually serious.

Looking forward to seeing this build come to life for me when I can make it happen.

I switched to frost variant today at lvl 56 and well.... I went back to lightning very fast so 100k down the drain lol.

Frost variant just doesnt proc cast on freeze at all for me compared to lightning + The Three Dragons Helmet. With lightning + mana tempest I absolutely obliterate all act 2 cruel bossed and trash mobs so far. Also cast on frezee with this setup procs all the time, like every pack.

Notable items: The three dragons, Lifespring, focus + 1 spells, amulet +2 spells (total of +6 all spells)
1267 hp, 1192 ES, 1188 mana

using these skills
spark - pierce - wildshards - arcane tempo - acceleration
orb of storms - controlled destruction - overabundance - magnified effect
cast on freeze - comet - impetus - spell cascade
conductivity - heightened curse - persistence
mana tempest - inspiration - premeditation - murderous intent

My skill tree at 58:
I'm not specced to MoM yet because I dont feel like I need it. I feel pretty tanky already and with 260 mana regen without MoM I can comfortably use mana tempest.

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgcAS69HdoqE1jwwCM41yTlKJaoCBZh97mPhbhFoIai24-fiwWgUwnFR7-v01S3Ytdonk4JBDLPx4z-AKEp86SevEtxKZA3vSNv5dyJ1bImNxdmcaRlxLz4Ng19x3IgYBZm96hpc8qoQx6t1ega9qKgckBA9DGvq1z3ioBKoOBvvmuj0DKrH8FcqsdL6LgkfZhexB8ltWJr_HgAA


link doesn't work?

Should be fine now
https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgcAS69HdoqE1jwwCM41yTlKJaoCBZh97mPhbhFoIai24-fiwWgUwnFR7-v01S3Ytdonk4JBDLPx4z-AKEp86SevEtxKZA3vSNv5dyJ1bImNxdmcaRlxLz4Ng19x3IgYBZm96hpc8qoQx6t1ega9qKgckBA9DGvq1z3ioBKoOBvvmuj0DKrH8FcqsdL6LgkfZhexB8ltWJr_HgAA
Last edited by Haseo666#4328 on Dec 12, 2024, 8:56:48 AM
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vyuthex#7317 wrote:

How you'll build arc to be cast manually ? I'm curious because I don't deal enough damage with it.


Honestly, I never liked it for single target, I didn't see any benefit over shotgunning the boss with spark. It works if you're doing it with unleash to just let off some concentrated hate and keep moving/sparking. But with cold conversion, I'm not finding it necessary.

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KaseiOs#5950 wrote:
anyone know how works 'three dragon' with this ascendancy?

my two 'shocks' with this ascendancy = two 'freez', or what?


If you use three dragons, only fire skills will give shocks, making this functionally useless until you get the next node that makes all elements shock.

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tjunker#7674 wrote:
Just one single question...

When it become mid and late game? (i've completed the early game passive skill tree)
Can you put the approximate level in the guide?

Ty!


I'd consider midgame around act II. Basically, when you've specced out the beginner tree and ran out of nodes, you're in mid game (around level 30?). I ended up shuffling to the end game high es tree around lvl 40-45, mid act III.

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Haseo666#4328 wrote:

I switched to frost variant today at lvl 56 and well.... I went back to lightning very fast so 100k down the drain lol.

Frost variant just doesnt proc cast on freeze at all for me compared to lightning + The Three Dragons Helmet. With lightning + mana tempest I absolutely obliterate all act 2 cruel bossed and trash mobs so far. Also cast on frezee with this setup procs all the time, like every pack.


Maybe there's some hidden interactions with lightning magnitude for energy gain vs cold, but I couldn't say. I don't want to respec to get back enough dex to wear the three dragons, but I'll test it later if I can get a high dex ring from a guildie. This is really interesting though, if three dragons is somehow getting around the nerf by using lightning and freeze to double dip it could keep triggers completely viable.

Personally, I'm not having a problem with cold convert using the ring. It proccs a comet every second pack, getting much better after taking the 4 trigger energy nodes up the top of the tree: it gives 24% more energy (and therefore 24% more comets!) with a 25% chance for comets to only use half energy. I suggest bee-lining it there if your clear isn't feeling nice.

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Completely bricked build now due to the latest changes? This was what I am currently working on but because of the cast on X nerfs I fear this is totally bricked


I thought this nerf would be build ending, but it's more build slowing. RIP 4 or 5 comets per pack, but thankfully, NOT RIP build. The clear is mnowhere near as filthy as it was before, but it's still not bad.



Last edited by theherbalist#5190 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:48:46 AM
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nope. atrchmage is mana hungry as hell, any extra links will just multiply the mana costs and we don't want that.



I am curious if I just discovered something new, or am I just not understanding something - but I have checked how much Spark cost with Archmage with only Clarity vs Archmage with additional two gems (in my example I tried Lightning Mastery and Cannibalism) - and the cost of Spark is identical.
Also - I am not sure if understand it correctly but...

If Three Dragons Mask causes our lightning damage to stack freeze buildup - we can use Cast on Freeze, which is more reliable than Cast on Shock.

However, because the damage is still considered to be lightining (if you do not use the ring), maybe it is worth combining the mentioned helmet with another unique: Kitoko's Current!

This combination in theory could cause our lightning damage to stack freeze buildup and electrocution (which is better stun) at the same time!

What do you think about it?
This build still work with CoF nerf guys ?
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Also - I am not sure if understand it correctly but...

If Three Dragons Mask causes our lightning damage to stack freeze buildup - we can use Cast on Freeze, which is more reliable than Cast on Shock.

However, because the damage is still considered to be lightining (if you do not use the ring), maybe it is worth combining the mentioned helmet with another unique: Kitoko's Current!

This combination in theory could cause our lightning damage to stack freeze buildup and electrocution (which is better stun) at the same time!

What do you think about it?


Just tested it with the Electrocution Gem, would definetly work. I think you might be sacrificing too much energy shield with the helm / glove combo. Also the lack of resistances and the reduction in cast speed will hurt us.

I've mainly been running the Three Dragons to add an extra level of defense in maps. The ability to freeze the mobs is great. I've dropped archmage for now, the mana burn was far too high to justify the cost. Adopted arctic armour and clarity instead for more defense. Haven't switched fully to CI yet, still cobbling together my ES gear, but it definetely feels doable but it's no where near as crazy as it once was.

I've also dropped all the trigger nodes on the tree, as we don't proc CoF enough for it to be worth the investment, at least not yet.
So do I understand correctly that the build survived the nerf (both the cold conversion Cast on Freeze and the early end game Cast on Shock)? The only difference is that we proc our single target of choice (meteor or ball lightning or whatever) much less often and therefore lose the single target damage?

If that's all correct, and it's still worth plodding forward for me, then I just need help figuring out if it's still worth leveling with cast 9on shock + ball lightning. I'm just starting Cruel and the single target on arc feels real low, even with +4 gem levels. And I'd really like to get a second defensive layer online, but the mana isn't there for MoM yet. Though if I'm dropping Arc/Ball Lightning, I can put Arctic Armor back on maybe?
CoF is dead rip. Time to update the CoF swap section.
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CoF is dead rip. Time to update the CoF swap section.

Works still fine with The Three dragons helmet for me.
Last edited by Haseo666#4328 on Dec 12, 2024, 2:17:52 PM
If I have The Three Dragons Solid Mask my lightning skills causes freeze build-up instead of shock, how does that interact with Orb of Storms?

Is Orb of Storms with Conduction (+100% more chance to shock) now having 100% more chance to freeze? Also - if I put Glaciation on it (+50% more freeze build-up) will that work too?

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