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esostaks wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

But it is objectively not harder at all.

How is it not? You could argue that my build is bad/lacks dps, whatever and I don't doubt for a second that for other builds it might be a breeze, but in the context of my build - if my build can do the rest of the map easily why should there be something that is much stronger than the overall map, yet unrewarding and ultimately not worth interacting with?

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Nomancs wrote:

Again - what would it have to drop to be "rewarding" for few seconds of fight? Verisium is more than fair.

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esostaks wrote:

I got it guys. Just don't charge because the reward is not worth the risk. Glad we agree. I won't charge to the max anymore, because fighting a mob that is much tankier and much deadlier than any other mob on my map is indeed not worth for that tiny increase in Verisium you get out of it.

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plz wrote:

I think the problem all of us are having here is not knowing what high reward you want out of a full channel. People said that they can clear it fully channeled in seconds -- so do they deserve a high reward even though it was low risk for them? Or imagine if a full channel had even a very small chance of giving 100x the ore. A high reward, but then wouldn't you feel it was required to always do a full channel?

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plz wrote:

so do they deserve a high reward even though it was low risk for them?

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plz wrote:

A high reward, but then wouldn't you feel it was required to always do a full channel?

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esostaks wrote:

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plz wrote:

I think the problem all of us are having here is not knowing what high reward you want out of a full channel. People said that they can clear it fully channeled in seconds -- so do they deserve a high reward even though it was low risk for them? Or imagine if a full channel had even a very small chance of giving 100x the ore. A high reward, but then wouldn't you feel it was required to always do a full channel?

I'm not speaking about high channel per se. Reward for high channel is more verisium. I constantly do max channel when 500 is max, even 600, but those uniques only spawned 3 times for me so it has nothing to do with the max channel per se. The rewards could be anything compared just to 500 gold. Let's say a mob specific unique that can come with different modifiers for the gamble or is worth corrupting. Or some sort of invitation, or whatever - but definitely not nothing (500 g).

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plz wrote:

so do they deserve a high reward even though it was low risk for them?

But how is the rest of the game different? For some players with builds worth mirrors the whole game is a breeze and zero risk. I don't see a problem with 1% 40 challenges players being rewarded for their effort. What does it have to do with the rest of 99% players? Let them be rewarded for their knowledge/playtime. And again, those mobs seem rare, so why can't they drop something?

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plz wrote:

A high reward, but then wouldn't you feel it was required to always do a full channel?

Again, doesn't it already apply to the whole game? I see complaints that T17s are the only profitable thing and the only thing worth doing over and over again. So in a sense those players also feel that they are 'force' to do T17 to earn currency (I don't agree with this sentiment btw).

Edit: here's an actual idea for reward - drop some gold explosion and some runes like that mini-boss in the stargazer, or one of the two.

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Nomancs wrote:

So to summ it up, YOU want to be rewarder because this easy monster is hard for you? And since it is easy for me, I will not be rewarded? - it will not work like that. Because if we get same item, even with various stats, players that have no issue with this mob, will just have abundance amount of such item and thus make the item worthless anyway. Supply and demand.

You are aware that those runes would be worthless, because of how easy for better players it is? And you would be back here, to this topic?

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esostaks wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

So to summ it up, YOU want to be rewarder because this easy monster is hard for you? And since it is easy for me, I will not be rewarded? - it will not work like that. Because if we get same item, even with various stats, players that have no issue with this mob, will just have abundance amount of such item and thus make the item worthless anyway. Supply and demand.

You are aware that those runes would be worthless, because of how easy for better players it is? And you would be back here, to this topic?

Yeah, I don't believe that 1% has any impact on the game or its economy. The fact that Fubgun farmed hundreds of Apothecaries for leagues when MF was alive, didn't make the price of Magebloods plummet.

Most of the runes are already worthless, but it would at least be 'something'. And somehow the stargazer guy or the pirate boss dropping runes haven't broken the game, yet you think that adding it to Verisium uniques would make them more worthless. Really, no point discussing with you, so I won't even bother to respond to this silliness.