Is the cluster jewel I am trying to craft possible?
It still has that order up currently, which is incorrect for cluster jewels in settlers league. So incorrect then and now. I haven't noticed it on any other cluster jewels yet except this combination (Renewal, Vicious Bite, Skeletal Atrophy).
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" I don't understand what exactly is incorrect? Does the cluster in the game have passives in the wrong order? (I can't check it in the game now) Last edited by seaman#4993 on Sep 8, 2024, 12:32:45 PM
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Thankyou for taking the time to look at this.
The image you have posted is correct, but that is not the ordering I am getting from PoEDB, currently. What I'm looking at has skeletal atrophy listed above viscous bite. Implying skeletal atrophy should be opposite and not vicious bite. It maybe that the list I'm looking at is not the correct place to look? (Minion nodes are about half way down. I've been using the web browser search function to search for "bite" so the other nodes don't become hidden). https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#ClusterJewelPassive I can confirm that the jewels from in game settlers, follow the ordering in the image you have linked. How do I locate that exact list for just the large minion jewel? I guess the list i'm looking at is not the modifier order? I don't know why it would be ordered differently on these different lists. Regards. (Edit: I've found the modifier list you have posted on the site. I didn't realize this existed before. For anyone reading thread. https://poedb.tw/us/Large_Cluster_Jewel#EnchantmentModifiers The problem I guess is why do they have this other listed with a different ordering, on a tab next to the tab that explains how notables are allocated and references list order. Does the rest of that list check out and skeletal atrophy is just out of order? The reply in the thread I have quoted is looking on the same list as me I believe. They have probably also gone from this tab, https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#SlotInformation to the list on the next tab. Which has a different ordering than the modifier list which is in a differently location on the website and ordered differently for some reason. Copied in list so you don't need to look it up unless you want to verify. You can see both list are identical, except Skeletal Atrophy is out of order. Minions deal 10% increased Damage Renewal 50 Prefix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Raze and Pillage 68 Prefix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Rotten Claws 50 Prefix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Call to the Slaughter 1 Suffix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Skeletal Atrophy 68 Prefix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Vicious Bite 75 Suffix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Primordial Bond 68 Suffix Minions deal 10% increased Damage Feasting Fiends 1 Prefix ) Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Sep 8, 2024, 11:31:18 PM
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IDs can be found here: https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/blob/dev/src/Data/ClusterJewels.lua#L582 (It says its automatically generated so its likely correct but I dont really know.)
The ordering in the game is supposedly due to these IDs. From that list: "Vicious Bite" = 11214, "Skeletal Atrophy" = 11499, So probably wrong: https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#ClusterJewelPassive So probably right: https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#EnchantmentModifiers Edited my older post in this thread as it pointed to the probably wrong list. (The reason for the mismatch may have to do with the weird ordering in the linked ID list. Most of the entries seem to be ordered according to their numbers. But some are not including "Skeletal Atrophy".) (I didnt check if there are other mismatches or if the "probably right" list fits entirely with the ID list.) Edit found the list link here: https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/xftx9d/how_to_know_the_position_of_a_notable_on_jewel/iooy4ep/ No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle! Last edited by Zrevnur#2026 on Sep 9, 2024, 4:53:30 AM
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Thanks for providing that information Zrevnur.
" Yes, I can confirm this, I have cluster jewels with this combination in Settlers and they are following the "Enchantment modifiers list". " Yes, that is why it is confusing, because I've use the "Probably right" list before and it has often been correct. I also don't really want to go though the list and check all the passives, would just say for anyone using this resource, the "Enchantment modifier list" seems to be more accurate, so probably use that one and maybe do I final check on POB import if not certain or look at the mod order on the full descriptions of trade which seem to be accurate. For this particular large minion jewel, it is only skeletal atrophy that has a different order. I think the other combinations that would be affected are (Prefix notable, Primordial bond, Skeletal atrophy) and (Feasting fiends, Skeletal atrophy, Suffix notable). I don't have any of those in game, but I checked some on the trade site and POB they all are coming up with skeletal atrophy in position 3, as it should if it is last on the list, indicating the "Enchantment modifier list" is correct. At least for this minion jewel. Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Sep 9, 2024, 5:30:24 AM
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