Is the cluster jewel I am trying to craft possible?

I am trying to craft or search inside the game a large cluster jewel, with "12% increased attack damage while holding a shield", that has 3 notables:
1)veteran Defender
2) Prodigious defence
3)random notable
I have managed to roll it as it is, but never the third "random notable" is at the back, and spoils it for me. Also the ones for trade have the same issue. Is it even possible or there is some deeper mechanic that doesn't allow it?

It is possible. However, both notables you mentioned are from prefixes, which have a different pool compared to suffixes. To my knowledge, the only possible outcomes for a third notable are heavy hitter, martial prowess and smite the weak.

Additionally, getting three notables on any large cluster jewel is exceedingly rare. But it definitely is possible.

Veteran defender looks like its always the 3rd notable spot so you do seem SoL from checking it on PoB.

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I am trying to craft or search inside the game a large cluster jewel, with "12% increased attack damage while holding a shield", that has 3 notables:
1)veteran Defender
2) Prodigious defence
3)random notable
I have managed to roll it as it is, but never the third "random notable" is at the back, and spoils it for me. Also the ones for trade have the same issue. Is it even possible or there is some deeper mechanic that doesn't allow it?

Probably not possible to get the "random notable" at the back. There are rules, see: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Cluster_jewel
For order see: https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#EnchantmentModifiers
In the ordering there is no suffix between "Prodigious Defence" and "Veteran Defender". The third Notable however must be a suffix.
Assuming Im correct here 'Veteran Defender' is always at the back if you got both the desired and a random other one.


Edit: Removed due to it being probably wrong for at least one entry: https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#ClusterJewelPassive

Replaced with: https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#EnchantmentModifiers

It's been a while since I've looked at cluster jewels like this, but if I recall correctly check out PoEDB. The order the passives are listed are the order they will appear in the tree left to right. Prodigious Defense is the first notable listed on PoEDB, so it will always be the leftmost notable. Your second desired notable is Veteran Defender, and since there are no suffix notables between the two prefixes, Veteran Defender in this setup will always be in the middle at the back, leaving the random 3rd at the rightmost.

(Edit. I don't think this works, see reply later in thread for why I think the order on PoeDB has errors.)

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For order see: https://poedb.tw/us/Cluster_Jewel#ClusterJewelPassive

Cheers, I've been looking for this order. Checked it against some of my old cluster jewels, it seems to check out, although I think the list doesn't contain removed notables.

So going off the list it doesn't look possible. Only some prefixes are in between, and you would need a suffix for a third notable.

Thanks a lot guys, I was starting to believe there was some inner working not letting me get what I want, I hope I have asked before I started puring money on the unachievable, sad face, it was around 15k chaos of rolling.
You all have been very helpful and very analytic on giving me to understand what is going on in simple terms, and I am very grateful because English is not my native language and sometimes takes me time.

I want to ask something else about the cluster jewel's notable.
It has a notable called "Devastator". It gives:
20% increased Attack Damage
20% increased Damage with Ailments from Attack Skills
Enemies Killed with Attack Hits have a 15% chance to Explode, dealing a tenth of their Life as Physical Damage
Will this apply to my minion's (agony crawler) attacks?

Order on PoeDB for the notables seems to be incorrect for atleast one case listed in the thead below

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3249433/page/1#p25444705

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Two: Renewal, Vicious Bite, Skeletal Atrophy

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On the left from start - Renewal. Ok. Seems like all will be great, but...
Opposite - Vicious Bite. Why? Where is Skeletal Atrophy?
On the right from the start - Skeletal Atrophy, of course.

Is poedb skills order incorrect for now?