Reminder: Selectable Character Gender is a "Minimum Bar."

They're wasting the tabula rasa if they don't do it.

Straight-up. PoE 1 baked *WAY* too much meaningful character progression into the campaign. They painted themselves into a corner with that one and it's why we never got Mapping as the *fucking perfect* story-free mode ever fucking put into a game.

They struck gold with the Map system but had no way of extracting it for isolated usage. So any character that wanted to experience it had to crawl down the same fucking hole...every....tiiiimme....

The flexibility of the Map system in and of itself is enough for a game *in and of itself*. Tell me you can't see a rogue-lite using an Atlas of Worlds style layout as its level assembly, and a more elaborate hideout as the expandable, upgradeable base. It's all there. I would play the everloving shit out of that.

And if they disagree, well that's fine. They're allowed to be wrong about their own genius. Wouldn't be the first time.

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DieGrauenhafte wrote:

The gender of a character is a non factor here and has literally zero impact on the gameplay. POE is neither a story driven game like The Last of Us or God of War (where gender selection would make no sense), nor a higly immersive make your own adventure roleplaying type of game like BG3 (in which case a gender selection option makes much more sense).

The fact there aren't strong rpg story elements is exactly why giving player license via e.g. character appearance makes more sense imo. Certainly GGG seem to agree when it comes to MTX..

But if it's some huge technical challenge to overcome, or it's a choice between this or act 5 - sure don't put in the resources.

Yea I mean its up to GGG if they want to add character customization to the game.

It doesn't affect me either way. Its not like you can really see your character anyways.

Armour is a bit more flashy and you can spot what you are wearing but its kinda hard to make out what you look like in this game with all that's happening on screen.

Up to them what they wanna add I suppose.

Nah, locked gender classes won't make or break the game. A game can be successful even with gender locked classes - you are looking at one right now. Will some people be upset about it? Probably. People get upset even at smaller things. But in general it's a design choice of the devs, and it won't dictate the success of PoE 2.

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BINARYGOD wrote:

There is nothing to lose by adding this is. Sure, everything is an opportunity cost, but so are plenty of things most of you won't like (no one is going to like literally everything about the sequel, of course) that perhaps you dont even know about yet.

Adding another gender to every class would require them to re-rig every single animation for them, create new voice overs and spend considerable time adjusting every single item variation to fit the models.

Poe 2 has been delayed enough, I'm not waiting another 12 months so you can live your fantasy in a hack and slash game. Baldur's Gate is that way ->.

Sure, what about in an Action ROLEPLAYING GAME?

Huh? HUH?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Sure, what about in an Action ROLEPLAYING GAME?

Huh? HUH?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

At this point most ARPGs are just A Games without RP but marketed as ARPG.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Sure, what about in an Action ROLEPLAYING GAME?

Huh? HUH?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Let's be realistic. No one, absolutely no one, is downloading let alone playing Path of Exile to pursue roleplaying.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I mean, yeah, but also, there's no way someone would make that claim if they'd kept up with the main thrust of this thread. Or maybe they would. I dunno.

As long as it has 'RPG' in the genre designation and allows for things like character creation and customisation, I'm going to argue it's a cut above a hack and slasher.

On the other hand, I can name at least one hack and slasher with a deeper item system than some ARPGs so...it's all kinda fluid.

Either way, I'd be perfectly fine if PoE 2 had concrete gender-lock per class *IF* and only if said characters also came with set names and stories hand-written for them. And I don't see that happening.

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Plenty of people roleplay in the WEIRDEST situations dude. We used to RP in Diablo 1. Don't go assuming anything there just because you don't. When Chris said there'd be private leagues way back in 2013, quite a few of us were discussing roleplay potential. Of course, by the time they did happen, the game had changed so dramatically that just wasn't going to happen.

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Of course, 'I don't want you getting something that'd improve the game for some people because it'd make me wait longer' isn't exactly a strong position of argument beyond selfishness on the best of days , but hey, you do you. Own that me-first attitude! More people should, honestly.

I don't doubt that someone out there is roleplaying as a Ranger stuck in Act 1, living off the lands. But you need to think in terms of priorities, Charan.

Would adding this feature only appease a few select (though quite vocal, abrasive people such as OP) or is there an actual ROI (beccause you have to set aside time for writing dialogue, hiring VA, creating new models, animation rigging, fitting MTX)

Right now, I'd rather they ship the game out. It's been delayed already, and at the end of the day MOST people play PoE for the gameplay. Leave the RP'ing to the FF14 peepos, a game that actually gives you tons of options for doing that. RP'ing has never been a focal point in PoE and it doesn't have to be

I can write it off as a "would be neat" but quite low on the list of priorities.