Is over $1,000 in support packs enough for PoE2 Beta Access?
" I'm quite familiar with expansion betas, but we're talking about a brand new game here. GGG will undoubtedly recognise the need to push testing to the highest degree, and that can only be achieved through the inclusion of time-dedicated players (many of whom haven't stretched their wallets). Generally speaking, a 60-Dollar-Harry with 5000 hours played is more valuable to the beta than a 500-Dollar-Graham with only 300 hours played. Experience is invaluable to this kind of beta. |
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Firstly: Blizzard "washed up". Lol. No. Objectively. No. Statements like that are why Exiles have such a reputation for deluded elitism. You can hate or love D4 or even be healthily indifferent about it; none of these change that the game was a financial success. Reality is not yours to shape, no matter how much time you spend in your well crafted bubble.
Secondly: if they do make it lifetime spend for PoE2 beta access, I recommend $20k. Should be just about right to keep a standard of tester appropriate to the content. Thirdly: one of the above is a joke. Feel free to pick which. BONUS: I actually agree that since poe2 is a new game, they would best be served treating it as such testing wise. Fresh perspectives are just as if not more important than some nitpicky nolifer. After all, nitpicky nolifers can likely be found in GGG's own ranks. Truly new eyes, not so much. https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
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" Or any kind of beta for that matter...I haven't seen 1 company say "we are letting only the players with top time spent in game".... Imagine the backlash... Also by that logic , I would like beta access now, cuz I have over 3000 hours just on steam and over 3000 hours on stand alone. Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party. Last edited by Vendetta on Mar 20, 2024, 3:08:05 AM
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" It's not about what you think about D4 or PoE, or what you think about how people perceive the so called "exiles" (got it's cringe even writing it, it's like cosplay but even more cringe)....In my opinion Blizzard is a washed up company. You are threating the success of a company just based on numbers, and based on that assumption lost ark would have struck gold, which is not true since 80% of the players are bots. The fact that for almost any ameba only financial success matter you would really like to know that there are people that value a company for not just that... P.S you are not seen as an elitist, nobody is talking about you "exiles" ( man this is cringe level over 9000), everyone refers to PoE as having an overall hard curve and being punitive to new players through respec costs and so on... So you might want to vent out of your well crafted bubble, people have different oppinions. To answer your third question, I really hope the first one is a joke, because sure D4 was a financial success, also a bombing period for Blizzard...Soon enough all this bad products wrapped as financial success will end up being their downfall, if not already started... Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party. Last edited by Vendetta on Mar 20, 2024, 3:10:42 AM
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"What do you mean bad product? They even got their own Chris Wilson. | |
" I'm sorry but this is a bit shortsighted, no? If not completely diluted. If a game isn't financially successful, often times the company simply goes out of business. There are rarely moral victories in the gaming world, and the notion that game is "great" and nobody bought it, is really pollyanish. Amateur hour from a professional point of view. With the "bomb" comment you seem to imply that D4 was failure, and isn't doing well. Objectively false. This will be hard to justify when the expansion comes out and it sells like crazy. It can't be true that the game bombed, and people don't like it, then proceed to buy the expansion for a game they dont enjoy. That's where Mr. Chan is speaking about Exile Elitism. Or what I affectionately describe as Diablo Derangement Syndrome. Sure D4 might not be for you. It's just fine for countless others. Is it perfect? No. Failure/Bomb? Please. I suppose the point is we get it. PoE is beyond reproach in your eyes. But to extrapolate that to everything else in the market, dismissive of objective evidence is, ... well the bias is embarrassing if you ask me. Carry on. D4 will be fine. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44 on Mar 20, 2024, 10:50:49 AM
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People are still defending D4? lmfao
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/988f3369-4b68-4eb9-bc0e-edfce4c3c950
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Don't get it twisted. D4 doesn't need to be defended, at all.
It's fine whether I like it, or you don't. Thats suitable for a forum debate, but its almost completely irrelevant. D4's scope dwarfs any sort of cynical grandstanding by elites and content creators. Normal gamers in their demographic simply don't give a fuck about all that, and the numbers show it. Now this might offend your accute arpg sensibilities, if you have them, but again, essentially irrelevant in the grand scheme. But hey I get it, "D4 Bad" is so cool to say! Back on topic however, GGG will obviously be monetizing the beta with fomo packs, you can bet the house on that. But thats ok right because F2P? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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" It's the most known defender of D4, diabloski, no surprise they show up with PoE2 being so close hoho " What about D4's 100 bucks early access fomo version or even the cheap way to advertise beta access over unhealthy junk food in the US? Even if GGG ends up selling beta access over the next league packs, that's already much better than the shit show blizzard pulled of. 30 bucks access vs 100 bucks access or eating unhealthy junk food. Go pick your poison. Flames and madness. I'm so glad I didn't miss the fun. Last edited by Pashid on Mar 20, 2024, 1:34:34 PM
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" How droll and binary. The PoE guys that believe you cannot possibly play both gsmes is exhausting, and often not worth much effort tbh. Im just pointing out the hypocrisy. The whataboutism doesn't really work unless you are suggesting PoE should be more like D4 in their marketing? I will be trying out PoE2 of course. I will still likely play PoE1 depending on the leagues, like I have for a dozen years, and will absolutely be playing the D4 expansion(s). This is what most people would consider normal gaming behavior. But the PoE forums often do a poor job of representing normal. That said you do you. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44 on Mar 20, 2024, 1:21:21 PM
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