GGG disguised the massive nerfs as these ''new gems''

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

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ArtCrusade wrote:

No, you don't need MF to get tons of loot from your maps.

Tell us your secret then. I gave up on the idea of maps dropping more than bubblegum a long time ago. Started swimming in $$ when I started boss and invite farming. I think the only thing worth mentioning this entire leauge that dropped was an Imperial Bow with t1 fractured lightning damage.

There's no secrets, only years of experience playing the game. Do you really think the big chomps wealth-wise are MF'ing? That's manual labor dude. For-profit crafting is way more profitable

As for mapping, there are many available strategies that require 0 MF investment

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ArtCrusade wrote:

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

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ArtCrusade wrote:

No, you don't need MF to get tons of loot from your maps.

Tell us your secret then. I gave up on the idea of maps dropping more than bubblegum a long time ago. Started swimming in $$ when I started boss and invite farming. I think the only thing worth mentioning this entire leauge that dropped was an Imperial Bow with t1 fractured lightning damage.

There's no secrets, only years of experience playing the game. Do you really think the big chomps wealth-wise are MF'ing? That's manual labor dude. For-profit crafting is way more profitable

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I've been playing since closed beta. You don't get jack squat in a map without sextants and scarabs which the lovly community prices regular players out of. Even if you invest 200c into a map, RNG can be lame. I've never gotten a mirror or a divines explosion. I don't recall implying I don't know how to play yet here you two are with your unsolicited suggestions.

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You don't get jack squat in a map without sextants and scarabs which the lovly community prices regular players out of

What does this mean? Most scarabs more than cover their investment, so how would you be priced out of them?

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Candlejack297 wrote:

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You don't get jack squat in a map without sextants and scarabs which the lovly community prices regular players out of

What does this mean? Most scarabs more than cover their investment, so how would you be priced out of them?

Are we playing the same game?

Again with the focusing on a single line...

I said scarabs AND SEXTANTS.

Point is, you can plug in 4 scarabs and 4 sextants totalling in some cases a total of 150c or more PER MAP, and only get bubblegum currency, bad rares that arent worth IDing, and bad fractures.

I'm done with this topic and done with this forum.

Which is it now? Were you interested in learning, or was it just setup for a rant? Usually, when someone uses phrases like "tell me" I understand it as someone being open to conversation. 😊

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

Again with the focusing on a single line...

I recall you reducing my longer post to a single line in your first response. How ironic for you to say that now!

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

I'm done with this topic and done with this forum.

Sometimes taking a break is a good thing. 👋

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

I've been playing since closed beta. You don't get jack squat in a map without sextants and scarabs which the lovly community prices regular players out of. Even if you invest 200c into a map, RNG can be lame. I've never gotten a mirror or a divines explosion. I don't recall implying I don't know how to play yet here you two are with your unsolicited suggestions.

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I dont think anyone was questioning how long you have played this game. POE has many, many approaches. And there is no "right or wrong" way to obtain currency.

You found a market in "carries and services" which I said I am happy you found at least a way to make currency.

But to respond to Art about Mf not being required, with a doubtful reply or this latest response:

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

Point is, you can plug in 4 scarabs and 4 sextants totalling in some cases a total of 150c or more PER MAP, and only get bubblegum currency, bad rares that arent worth IDing, and bad fractures.

It appears that there might be some gaps in understanding from your perspective. There are thousands of videos and posts that would prove otherwise.

I myself made a killing off maps when I decided to start trading this league and I have never used a winged scarab in my entire POE career or anything close to 200c investment in a map ever. Think the most expensive scarab I used this league was a Gilded breach/Gilded Blight scarab(s). Same with sextants belonging to chayula/additional breach/essence etc... These things cost next to nothing, and again, you can make an absolute killing off of. Without the wildwood, much less MF.


Yea and take a break if you are just frustrated with these answers, if that works for you.

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feral_nature wrote:

tried couple of them and they were bad.

like for example this wild strike of extremes. youre pretty limited on what chars you can play with it and i can get same dps with other gems.

never did i run lab for profit but i like having those helmet enchants... and the boot ones were pretty good too - no stun, penetration and stuff. never did run heist either but did like alt qual gems too.

they shouldve improved the old systems instead replacing it with a new one that doesnt do anything in most cases. like im playing smite and for whatever reason i lose dps from the trans gem. couldnt we instead just give me +3 strike targets for free?

kaom glove rekt, heatshiver nerf, ashes is horrible(not that i ever used it even before but wtf man...)

thats not true. eb+blightwell and any class can run new wild strike.

nobody plays that.

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

I've been playing since closed beta. You don't get jack squat in a map without sextants and scarabs which the lovly community prices regular players out of. Even if you invest 200c into a map, RNG can be lame. I've never gotten a mirror or a divines explosion. I don't recall implying I don't know how to play yet here you two are with your unsolicited suggestions.

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Guess even 10 years is not enough if someone doesnt want to learn.
You can make 20+ div/h doing white maps. Investing 10c into each map. Without using any MF. You just need to know how.

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trixxar wrote:

Sort of. I agree many existing builds were taken down a large amount.

But, its not a nerf if you massively invest into gem quality now. You can get crazy stuff as you start approaching 80% and 100% gem qualities.

I... don't think I've seen a gem with more than 30% quality, is there some new fangled way of significantly buffing Quality that I missed?

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

I've been playing since closed beta. You don't get jack squat in a map without sextants and scarabs which the lovly community prices regular players out of. Even if you invest 200c into a map, RNG can be lame. I've never gotten a mirror or a divines explosion. I don't recall implying I don't know how to play yet here you two are with your unsolicited suggestions.

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Guess even 10 years is not enough if someone doesnt want to learn.
You can make 20+ div/h doing white maps. Investing 10c into each map. Without using any MF. You just need to know how.

Since it's white maps, I assume you are referring to essence farming (since they are not scaling with map tier)?

IIRC, it goes like this, farm white maps with some minimal investment in Atlas essence nodes, then sell most expensive ones and reroll cheap ones with Harvest, then sell them too. Right?