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I hope they really nerf MF and juicy maps strat I don’t want to be negative or complaint all the times about other people being richer than me , that is absolutely fine for me if they have much more time to invest in the game and they have a smart strategy.
Cheers
Yeah sorry but that´s just a really bad take on the matter and - sorry to say - coming from a lot of missed out opportunities and knowledge on your side. I totally agree with Phrazz, I despise MF because it devalues the power of my character when, for me at least, PoE is all about upgrades and minmaxing your build. Therefore you will never see me on an MF char.
Right about now my char is worth probably in the 250-300 div range, with another 224 divs sitting casually in my damn stash. You dont NEED to do MF. You can farm literally anything that juicers don´t drop and make tons of currency. Just blaming MF for your arguably low currency per hour is just missguided.
Its not about needing to do it. Its about fact that any farming strat that is affected by player rarity/quantity, if you dont use MF, you are doing it wrong. (you can still do it w/o it, but you are losing huge chunk of currency you would farm otherwise)
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Posted byAynixon Jan 5, 2024, 6:34:52 AMOn Probation
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Oh sorry Vennto if I don’t spend my entire existence understanding how to farm a virtual currency on a videogame
Must be my mistake for sure lmao
Yeah, it is - and your salty answer doesn´t change anything about it because the people you reference also play more than 100 hours and also have a better understanding of the game. They juice accordingly with scarabs, learned to actually RUN the league mechanic and have several other important things in place that are needed to make those strats work. But ignorance is bliss I suppose, right? You don´t compare yourself to a casual 100h-player that slots in some mf, naaa you compare yourself to ultra-juicing mf yet u dont consider what people with equal investment into bossing or other forms of currency-production get out of it.
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Posted byVenntoon Jan 5, 2024, 6:47:55 AM
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I hope they really nerf MF and juicy maps strat I don’t want to be negative or complaint all the times about other people being richer than me , that is absolutely fine for me if they have much more time to invest in the game and they have a smart strategy.
Cheers
Yeah sorry but that´s just a really bad take on the matter and - sorry to say - coming from a lot of missed out opportunities and knowledge on your side. I totally agree with Phrazz, I despise MF because it devalues the power of my character when, for me at least, PoE is all about upgrades and minmaxing your build. Therefore you will never see me on an MF char.
Right about now my char is worth probably in the 250-300 div range, with another 224 divs sitting casually in my damn stash. You dont NEED to do MF. You can farm literally anything that juicers don´t drop and make tons of currency. Just blaming MF for your arguably low currency per hour is just missguided.
Its not about needing to do it. Its about fact that any farming strat that is affected by player rarity/quantity, if you dont use MF, you are doing it wrong. (you can still do it w/o it, but you are losing huge chunk of currency you would farm otherwise)
Yeah of course - and there are probably 35 farming strats out there that DO NOT rely on IIR/IIQ, so what is the point exactly? Farming basic maps without any dedicated league mechanic is suboptimal? Wow, congrats, we established an absolute baseline of game/atlas knowledge? :D It does not impact Harvest, it does not impact anything chest-related... So maybe farm anything else other than pure Rare Monsters if you´re not into MF?
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Posted byVenntoon Jan 5, 2024, 6:51:16 AM
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He kinda has a point. Im casual myself i dont realy care about super juicing or what others get. Last league i could do everything i wanted by just playing the game. Killed all bosses a few times (without ubers), got 24 challanges, got decent build, nothing crazy. This league its different. You are pressured to do some delibarate farming strat and that feels like a job. I dont want my game to feel like that. League buffs themselves feel stupid if you dont have 8-10 mil DPS. Wisps can brick other mechanics even on white maps. This is the worst league for people who just want to play the game.
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Posted bykuciolon Jan 5, 2024, 6:59:46 AM
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Yeah, it is - and your salty answer doesn´t change anything about it because the people you reference also play more than 100 hours and also have a better understanding of the game. They juice accordingly with scarabs, learned to actually RUN the league mechanic and have several other important things in place that are needed to make those strats work. But ignorance is bliss I suppose, right? You don´t compare yourself to a casual 100h-player that slots in some mf, naaa you compare yourself to ultra-juicing mf yet u dont consider what people with equal investment into bossing or other forms of currency-production get out of it.
It baffles me how someone who is obviously new'ish to the game could think they know more about the game than veterans with thousands of hours of playtime. Clearly they're not receptive to new information even if it would hlep them, so I'd just ignore them
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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Posted byArtCrusadeon Jan 5, 2024, 7:01:28 AMOn Probation
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I never said I knew more than veterans players
I expressed my personal opinion based on the amount of time I invested in the game
If you are mad about not being right 100% of the time go figure it out somewhere else
Also you can ignore me all you want, I won’t lose my sleep schedule about it.
Cheers
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Posted byBloss996on Jan 5, 2024, 7:08:55 AM
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Yeah of course - and there are probably 35 farming strats out there that DO NOT rely on IIR/IIQ, so what is the point exactly? Farming basic maps without any dedicated league mechanic is suboptimal? Wow, congrats, we established an absolute baseline of game/atlas knowledge? :D It does not impact Harvest, it does not impact anything chest-related... So maybe farm anything else other than pure Rare Monsters if you´re not into MF?
Tat point is invalid when one strat that can use MF is superrior in any way of form to other strats that cant use MF.
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Posted byAynixon Jan 5, 2024, 7:11:49 AMOn Probation
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have another prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect at our hands!
MF is just one flavour of playing the game. I can also run 0 MF and do the Abyss strategy on juiced T16s with Eater altars and I see no difference in loot, with the upside of character progression and better fracture bases dropping.
The entire point with MF gear is that it makes your character weaker, thus limiting the difficulty of content you can run. It's a trade-off.
do you have some proof, or is it just ur personal experience?
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Posted byLatzeon Jan 5, 2024, 7:23:18 AM
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do you have some proof, or is it just ur personal experience?
If you need proof look at the gear on my two characters and the fact I did this outside of trade economy
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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Posted byArtCrusadeon Jan 5, 2024, 7:24:21 AMOn Probation
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Thats no proof at all. You prove that you can get currency w/o MF and no one needs proof for that.
How about you get proper MF gear and run 100 maps and then take out MF gear and do same 100 maps, using same strat and compare how much you made.
Many people did that this league, and MF can at least double your profit (even if you consider that you are clearing slower, which isnt always the case becuase most people use MB/HH with MF anyway)
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Posted byAynixon Jan 5, 2024, 7:37:03 AMOn Probation
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