Skills with no Transfigured versions have effectively been heavily nerfed

Getting enough currency for those is definitely not easier.
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Aynix wrote:
Getting enough currency for those is definitely not easier.


So, alt blood rage was approximately 30D and alt Assassins mark was 25D. You then required mark on hit for assassin's mark and would probably want the alt version for 5% increased damage taken by the boss. That was another 20D and 3 gem slots.

It's only been a few days and already I see 3 listed for from 6 divine, to 22 divine with both frenzy & power charge generation. That's cheaper than even one of the older alt gems. Is it still harder is it?

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/LdqrOlHn
I'm struggling to come up with new goals to keep me playing this game.
Last edited by hmcg020 on Dec 12, 2023, 7:38:56 PM
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hmcg020 wrote:
Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.


Forgot to mention petrified blood, lost 60k ehp.
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valarias wrote:
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hmcg020 wrote:
Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.


Forgot to mention petrified blood, lost 60k ehp.


I'm not familiar with any changes that happened to that gem? I don't nor have ever used it so completely ignorant of it.
I'm struggling to come up with new goals to keep me playing this game.
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hmcg020 wrote:
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valarias wrote:
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hmcg020 wrote:
Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.


Forgot to mention petrified blood, lost 60k ehp.


I'm not familiar with any changes that happened to that gem? I don't nor have ever used it so completely ignorant of it.


Removal of anomalous petrified blood which could be stacked with enhance + ashes to take a huge amount of damage over time (but which was capped at your max hp, mitigating this downside almost completely with a small amount of leech) essentially doubled the effectiveness of petrified blood for squishy characters meaning you would only take ~40ish percent of damage below half health, added a huge defensive layer.
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hmcg020 wrote:
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Aynix wrote:
Getting enough currency for those is definitely not easier.


So, alt blood rage was approximately 30D and alt Assassins mark was 25D. You then required mark on hit for assassin's mark and would probably want the alt version for 5% increased damage taken by the boss. That was another 20D and 3 gem slots.

It's only been a few days and already I see 3 listed for from 6 divine, to 22 divine with both frenzy & power charge generation. That's cheaper than even one of the older alt gems. Is it still harder is it?

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/LdqrOlHn


Is this some joke? Or do you always call the bait listings legit? Soon as you go to "On Line" only (this get's rid of nearly all of the bait listing) it goes to 100 divine. Even if you wanted to include the off line and remove the clear bait listings it's still 22D at the bottom end.

It's getting so hard to have a real conversation anymore when people knowing use the most absurd methods to get what ever numbers they want to use to prove their point.
Last edited by Valkaneer on Dec 13, 2023, 12:23:24 AM
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Aynix wrote:
Its been meta before Venom Gyre even existed. It was already meta in Prophecy league thanks to legacy RoTC. "Ass Reach" was just as popular as TS Deadeye is nowadays.
And even before that LA was meta thanks to interaction with Frost Wall (which was later removed)
TS and LA are pretty much top mapping skills since ancient times and it will never change.

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hmcg020 wrote:
Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.


You meant they lost EASY way to generate those. Now they actually need to think how to get them instead slapping one gem and calling it a day.


There are metas within metas. For instance, before bows got buffed through the roof we had Seismic Trap, LS, and Venom Gyre. Yes we all know TS and LA was meta, but it was only meta in very high end of the player base. The masses were playing the prior.

TS and LA use to be very high end. But not anymore. Now have had over 25% of the total community day one playing builds that use to be of of reach for 99% of the players base till week 5 or 6.
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valarias wrote:
Removal of anomalous petrified blood which could be stacked with enhance + ashes to take a huge amount of damage over time (but which was capped at your max hp, mitigating this downside almost completely with a small amount of leech) essentially doubled the effectiveness of petrified blood for squishy characters meaning you would only take ~40ish percent of damage below half health, added a huge defensive layer.


Ah wow, thats a huge nerf. Thanks for explaining
I'm struggling to come up with new goals to keep me playing this game.
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Valkaneer wrote:
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hmcg020 wrote:
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Aynix wrote:
Getting enough currency for those is definitely not easier.


So, alt blood rage was approximately 30D and alt Assassins mark was 25D. You then required mark on hit for assassin's mark and would probably want the alt version for 5% increased damage taken by the boss. That was another 20D and 3 gem slots.

It's only been a few days and already I see 3 listed for from 6 divine, to 22 divine with both frenzy & power charge generation. That's cheaper than even one of the older alt gems. Is it still harder is it?

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/LdqrOlHn


Is this some joke? Or do you always call the bait listings legit? Soon as you go to "On Line" only (this get's rid of nearly all of the bait listing) it goes to 100 divine. Even if you wanted to include the off line and remove the clear bait listings it's still 22D at the bottom end.

It's getting so hard to have a real conversation anymore when people knowing use the most absurd methods to get what ever numbers they want to use to prove their point.


There are different time zones, and like I said, it hasn't even been a week and there's already multiple listings. If you want to assume that every single listing that doesn't come under the budget of 22 divine is immediately bait, market manipulation though, be my guest.

I used the link I posted and now I see 4 online. All 20D or under. Are they all bait too? Must be if their sale price doesn't fit within your argument. They probably only listed theirs to support your argument in fact!
I'm struggling to come up with new goals to keep me playing this game.
You compare prices of thing that was well known and established as a meta to thing that barely appeared in the game and barely anyone knows it exists. Wait for any streamer to make build with it and it will be 100 divines.

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