Feels a bit tone deaf
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" So as you claim the game developer added several layers of defences just because... noone cares? If the game is balanced around the softcore why the hell we even have defences and not just naked Life/ES/Ward/Aegis? Yes, most SC builds are glass or have mediocre defence (because characters are already immortal) but it doesn't mean the developer balanced the game around SC (only SC) and wasn't carrying about the survivability on the other game modes. It's just false assumption. If I am wrong, can you link the game dev manifesto or such statement where they clearly tell about that. I never seen that. Having zero defence but tons of DPS is only good on SC and for very specific bosses on HC (Eldritch ones). Death of DanverkTS is a good example of that. |
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" They added those for people to use. And we simply ignore them because they are not needed in most part. So what if I die from time to time? I have 6 portals and I will use them. | |
" This one for example " Can you just make short vid with /death command? |
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" [Removed by Support] The Mace/shield is full of Scepter builds, the Swords are more than half caster swords (like severed in sleep. You're blatantly trying to mislead with absurd screen shots which have all caster and melee weapons lumped together and try to pass it off as melee. Stop with the absurd straw man of 10%. The only reason only 10% of people play melee is because melee is total dog crap for near everything except Bonezone. If you go look at any other ARPG Melee take up 30-40% easy. Melee is what 50 X more expensive, and only puts out 1/4 of the damage of casters. I can take two lvl 4 wands which you can find on the vendor if your lucky, and it happens frequently that has +1 to all Lightning skills for example, and take that character all the way into Yellow maps. If I get lucky with some Regals I can use that lvl 4 wand all the way into void stones. You tell me the melee build which can do voidstone with a lvl 4 melee weapon? You tell me the melee build which can get past Act 4 with a lvl 4 melee weapon. You name like 3 or 4 melee skills that's above 1%, well you have to go past 30ish caster builds which are all higher just to get to those very few melee. Clear speed, uber boss viability, survivability, all heavily in the casters favor. A caster can get near all of their spell suppression on the tree, it's cheap for them, while most melee has to do Rog. No melee is nothing close to being in a good spot, and GGG knows it, as they said it in the Subtratem interview at ExileCon. Last edited by Drew_GGG on Dec 2, 2023, 1:02:35 PM
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" Exactly! SC makes these mechanics useless but it doesn't mean GGG not carrying about other game modes. If you or other ppl chosen to ignore the defences it's just your personal choice. In the game mode where you can't do bosses without properly built protection all of those are utilized! DanverkTS' death was just a good showcase of "Glass cannon doing ubers". In this case your only defence layer is Dontgethit. |
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Man, its so funny to read someone who clarly never played melee in end game (or didnt play it for years). I play melee every league. Each time diffrent build. Never played Boneshatter because it looks lime one of the most borin melee skills.
You know why melee isnt popular? Not because its lacks dmg. For simple reason. Totems. Melee have most of its DMG locked behind that stupid mechanic. You hit like a wet noodle unless you put down this damn wooden stick, then ur DMG skyrockets. It feels awfull. Last edited by Aynix on Dec 2, 2023, 1:51:45 PM
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True, that's a good point. It feels awful to have to put down totems to deal half-decent damage. And usually you need several types too, like 2-3 totems. Some of the same reason I don't like to have to use ballista totems and suchlike.
If they rebalance melee skills at some point, like for real, I hope they drastically change totems so that melee (and some others) won't have to rely on them, but instead that damage/attack speed/whatever is baked into melee skills, or support gems. |
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" totems is reason i cant play melee (i love totem play style) it just makes no sense that totems a mandatory for melee | |
" It's so funny to read people who clearly are just not being honest. It's not totems, people use totems all the time to boost their casting damage, self cast is hardly a thing, who do you think you're fooling? Show me all these 2- 3 mill DPS PoB for under 5 divine for melee, since there a dime a dozen... Cleave got nerfed in the patch notes, so obviously you got a 3m Cleave build for under 5D right? Um no, you need at least a 10D weapon alone to do that. Subtractem got roasting for his axe video in which he said he could make a 800dps Axe for under 5 Divine. If you get very lucky you can make it for under 5 Divine, but that Ax clearly should have costed 7 - 10D to make for most people. Guess what you need for a caster. A 2 or 3c unique wand and I can get the same kind of damage as a 10D axe. I always find it funny when the sideline touts how good they are, and all the amazing things they do, when the best players in the world say melee is a dumpster fire compared to casters. Ben, cArn, Imexile, all of them are clueless and the sideline on the forums are where the real good players are... At least so they say.. Last edited by Valkaneer on Dec 2, 2023, 1:33:07 PM
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