In-game trading system?!!!!

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Pashid wrote:
Cause a auction house would make the bot situation even worse as it already is.
All the people with their trade bots would benefit even more out of it and ruin the market even further for the normal player without any bots.

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Always funny to see people freaking out at the fear of bots buying underpriced items off the market if there was an AH with FT selling (which is totally optional by the way, if you aren't confident in your ability to price items, just make auctions) while totally ignoring the fact that a vast majority of the items and currency you currently buy via trade was in fact found by bots. It's baffling how people can be so afraid of missing some arbitrage opportunities while not giving a damn about the entire economy getting ruined.

Anyway, AH isn't going to happen. GGGs stance on this is about as final as it's stupid. No matter how much the community complains, it's not going to change so just save yourself the effort.
Last edited by Baharoth15 on Oct 8, 2023, 4:29:06 AM
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Baharoth15 wrote:
Always funny to see people freaking out at the fear of bots buying underpriced items off the market if there was an AH with FT selling (which is totally optional by the way, if you aren't confident in your ability to price items, just make auctions) while totally ignoring the fact that a vast majority of the items and currency you currently buy via trade was in fact found by bots. It's baffling how people can be so afraid of missing some arbitrage opportunities while not giving a damn about the entire economy getting ruined.

Anyway, AH isn't going to happen. GGGs stance on this is about as final as it's stupid. No matter how much the community complains, it's not going to change so just save yourself the effort.


Yes, lets ignore EVERY SINGLE OTHER ARGUMENT GGG MADE AGAINST IT! Why are you so fixated on the bots when its the least problematic thing when it comes to AH?
It's not me that's fixated on bots. It's the very first counterargument you see come up every single time an AH is suggested and the only one presented here in this topic. Not like the other arguments from the manifesto are much better though.
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Baharoth15 wrote:
It's not me that's fixated on bots. It's the very first counterargument you see come up every single time an AH is suggested and the only one presented here in this topic. Not like the other arguments from the manifesto are much better though.


Yes because overflooding market with items, inflation, complete invalidation of other methods of getting items, complete removal of player interraction and removal of any effort is such trivial matter.
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kuciol wrote:
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Baharoth15 wrote:
It's not me that's fixated on bots. It's the very first counterargument you see come up every single time an AH is suggested and the only one presented here in this topic. Not like the other arguments from the manifesto are much better though.


Yes because overflooding market with items, inflation, complete invalidation of other methods of getting items, complete removal of player interraction and removal of any effort is such trivial matter.


You are describing the current state of POE you realize? Now you can go with the "it would get worse" argument but the fact of the matter is, it's already fucked up to a massive extent, so much, that making it worse would hardly even be noticeable. The big mistake that ruins everything (introducing trade) was already made and their measure of fixing (making it "hard" lol) it doesn't work at all, if anything, it makes things worse.
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Baharoth15 wrote:

You are describing the current state of POE you realize? Now you can go with the "it would get worse" argument but the fact of the matter is, it's already fucked up to a massive extent, so much, that making it worse would hardly even be noticeable. The big mistake that ruins everything (introducing trade) was already made and their measure of fixing (making it "hard" lol) it doesn't work at all, if anything, it makes things worse.


Thats why GGG said its already to easy but the outrage to tone it down is not worth the effort. Making those problems 10 times worse is hard NO. Now trading is limited by the hassle you need to go through, with AH you remove the only deterent. It wont just be noticeable, it would be the end of the game.
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AhmedKazlak wrote:

Why can't GGG introduce an in-game trading system instead of messaging people for trades, joining parties, traveling to hideouts, etc?
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so time-consuming

Because non-traders will be penalized for your wishes to trade with one click. It is intended to be time-consuming. Stop asking this sh..t 100000 time and read Chris' Manifesto.
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kuciol wrote:


Thats why GGG said its already to easy but the outrage to tone it down is not worth the effort. Making those problems 10 times worse is hard NO. Now trading is limited by the hassle you need to go through, with AH you remove the only deterent. It wont just be noticeable, it would be the end of the game.


You are free to believe that fairy tale if you like, i am not going to bother to convince you otherwise. But i will suggest you get yourself a book or two on macro economics and market theory and read them carefully. Might end up being an eye opener.
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Baharoth15 wrote:

You are free to believe that fairy tale if you like, i am not going to bother to convince you otherwise. But i will suggest you get yourself a book or two on macro economics and market theory and read them carefully. Might end up being an eye opener.


Im accountant dude. Ive seen this happen in other games also (Cabal and Shaiya comes to mind). The only fairy tale is that AH would be good for PoE.

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