[3.24] Ice Shot / Lightning Arrow Deadeye (Or Tornado Shot) - 400%+ MS, League Start Viable!

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Krwwpn wrote:
I am having issues with just living and then not. Is there something I'm doing wrong to only have Ehp at 22k? https://poe.ninja/pob/wbX


It has nothing to do with ehp, it's just a bad metric to look at for a mapping character.

Your character actually looks very strong defensively, are you perhaps doing content outside of your current reach like fully triple empowered T16's?

That being said, you're not suppressed capped and you could use life rolls on your rings and helmet as well as the korell craft on your helmet.

Also you may find yourself dying after being cursed, since you don't have reduced effect on curses on any of your flasks. If I were you I would drop the life flask asap for a quicksilver and either put the granite or the quicksilver adjacent to your tincture instead of your jade since you are already evade capped without the increased effect on your jade flask.
Having issues getting crit up higher. Don't understand what I'm missing in the build. Maybe someone can see what I am missing.

Here is the POB. https://pobb.in/Zezv6Izfxg6V
Last edited by Tosiek530#7984 on Dec 23, 2023, 12:20:51 AM
More questions!
So I'm maxing out the build. I don't have the budget for the massive thread of hope, sadly.

What's a good anoint besides fury bolt? I have the str elsewhere.

I'm looking at charms that include "% of leech is instant" - what's a good secondary stat with that one? My other 2 charms have blind, spell suppress, and mark effect on both. I'm seeing a few good options.

Increased max leech per second er whatever it is,
Gain adrenaline on low life,
MS cannot be modified to below base value (unsure exactly what that base value means),
Ele pen,
Increased effect of non-damaging ailments (not sure how to calc that one in POB,
Banner skills have no reservation
Enemies can't gain power, end, frenzy, charges (this might be a niche charm to use in certain situations)

Are we ignite, chilling, or shocking AT ALL? Or is it just the upgraded versions from secrets of suffering? Should prioritizing mods that increase dmg to shocked, burning, chilled, enemies be important?

I feel like I have too much invested into mana/efficiency/cost/etc. I think i could get away with changing an affix from that to dmg or survival. 62 mana unreserved (am using warbanner - otherwise it's 137). Tshot costs 15, frenzy costs 9.

Btw here is my aforementioned leech charm search
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/ewlOJDouL

And my mark effect charm search
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/bw8krkahL
Last edited by philthechil#3018 on Dec 23, 2023, 1:27:48 AM
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Tosiek530 wrote:
Having issues getting crit up higher. Don't understand what I'm missing in the build. Maybe someone can see what I am missing.

Here is the POB. https://pobb.in/Zezv6Izfxg6V


You're missing the interrogation jewel

also you should blessed orb your quiver ;)
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philthechil wrote:
More questions!
So I'm maxing out the build. I don't have the budget for the massive thread of hope, sadly.

What's a good anoint besides fury bolt? I have the str elsewhere.

I'm looking at charms that include "% of leech is instant" - what's a good secondary stat with that one? My other 2 charms have blind, spell suppress, and mark effect on both. I'm seeing a few good options.

Increased max leech per second er whatever it is,
Gain adrenaline on low life,
MS cannot be modified to below base value (unsure exactly what that base value means),
Ele pen,
Increased effect of non-damaging ailments (not sure how to calc that one in POB,
Banner skills have no reservation
Enemies can't gain power, end, frenzy, charges (this might be a niche charm to use in certain situations)

Are we ignite, chilling, or shocking AT ALL? Or is it just the upgraded versions from secrets of suffering? Should prioritizing mods that increase dmg to shocked, burning, chilled, enemies be important?

I feel like I have too much invested into mana/efficiency/cost/etc. I think i could get away with changing an affix from that to dmg or survival. 62 mana unreserved (am using warbanner - otherwise it's 137). Tshot costs 15, frenzy costs 9.

Btw here is my aforementioned leech charm search
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/ewlOJDouL

And my mark effect charm search
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Affliction/bw8krkahL


Hey I made a weighted sum search last week to look for charms and "that which was taken" jewels it's in the guide somewhere and on the discord.

Secrets of suffering prevent any chill shock and ignite.

For mana efficiency it's definitely up to you. Before the massive thread of hope it's hard to fit an extra aura so you would be fine for now just dropping the affix as long as you can still trigger sniper's mark which should be your highest mana cost skill

for anoint I would either stay on fury bolt for the proj speed which is nice for TS, go for weathered hunter if I need the accuracy or take master fletcher and refund small passives leading up to it.
Last edited by yankuch#2841 on Dec 23, 2023, 1:38:44 AM
Finally in a place where the build feels like its running well after farming for my last few items, now im just wondering if there is anywhere i can improve dps or survivability or just in anyway make it better? here is the pob https://pobb.in/6czsHuuVC5GH.

and has anyone figured out the best in slot charms for this yet, the +1 proj seems very expensive on trade atm.
I feel like charms don't need to be a BIS, in a way. I'm using them for utility. Swap out for ele weakness, reflect, flask charges, etc.

I did look at your trade link of the charms. I started there. Just not sure where to go from here. :D

Heard on the rest of your message.


Is applying an additional curse ever worthwhile here?
Ele weakness give me about 13% increase in dmg. Would it be weird with also having the warlords mark in COC?

Edit: Nvm about the dmg increase with ele weakness. I'm uncertain about numbers. Gotta play with POB more.
Last edited by philthechil#3018 on Dec 23, 2023, 4:59:46 AM
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yankuch wrote:
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Krwwpn wrote:
I am having issues with just living and then not. Is there something I'm doing wrong to only have Ehp at 22k? https://poe.ninja/pob/wbX


It has nothing to do with ehp, it's just a bad metric to look at for a mapping character.

Your character actually looks very strong defensively, are you perhaps doing content outside of your current reach like fully triple empowered T16's?

That being said, you're not suppressed capped and you could use life rolls on your rings and helmet as well as the korell craft on your helmet.

Also you may find yourself dying after being cursed, since you don't have reduced effect on curses on any of your flasks. If I were you I would drop the life flask asap for a quicksilver and either put the granite or the quicksilver adjacent to your tincture instead of your jade since you are already evade capped without the increased effect on your jade flask.


Thank you, I am probably reaching beyond my content lvl. Odd that PoB shows me under suppress cap and in game it is 100%.
I like this build but I feel a bit stuck at the moment. I leveled my gems too much too soon so my Int and Strength requirements got too high. So downgraded a couple of gems. I have 15C to spend, so not much. What is the best thing I can do gear wise with my 70c to improve leveling?

My build https://pobb.in/nCXexJJhq6cT
Last edited by OnrahTheMysterious#5462 on Dec 23, 2023, 2:34:16 PM
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Krwwpn wrote:
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yankuch wrote:
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Krwwpn wrote:
I am having issues with just living and then not. Is there something I'm doing wrong to only have Ehp at 22k? https://poe.ninja/pob/wbX


It has nothing to do with ehp, it's just a bad metric to look at for a mapping character.

Your character actually looks very strong defensively, are you perhaps doing content outside of your current reach like fully triple empowered T16's?

That being said, you're not suppressed capped and you could use life rolls on your rings and helmet as well as the korell craft on your helmet.

Also you may find yourself dying after being cursed, since you don't have reduced effect on curses on any of your flasks. If I were you I would drop the life flask asap for a quicksilver and either put the granite or the quicksilver adjacent to your tincture instead of your jade since you are already evade capped without the increased effect on your jade flask.


Thank you, I am probably reaching beyond my content lvl. Odd that PoB shows me under suppress cap and in game it is 100%.


It will be 'Revenge of the Hunted' which has spell suppression while on full life. If you dont have "are you always on Full life" marked in your calcs section, it will not include it in the PoB

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