[3.25] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Graiaule#7461 wrote:

If the WI staff makes it into POE2 as a unique, I think it is its ilvl that determines how many sockets it will have, and it will have at most 5.

It might be better if it weren't a unique but a new base that cast a level xx icestorm. Then, 5 sockets wouldn't be an issue [the higher level icestorm will compensate for the missing support gem], and its implicit would be the x% increased intelligence. That would fit in with the POE2 design nicely and make icestorm staves a staple of the game.

What do you think?

(I'm still playing POE2 because it's quite deep even in version 0.1 and I am learning new stuff constantly.)

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Cjin#1011 wrote:

Number of sockets is not an issue. WI would be balanced around having 5 sockets. whether the Icestorm is lvl1 always or levels up with ilvl of the staff is something the rest of the stats would be balanced in mind.

The question is if GGG is capable to balance WI to be viable.

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Tithonia#4676 wrote:

I think that even if/when WI makes it into PoE2, it and building around it is going to be wildly different unless some things we rely on show up on new classes or a revamped passive tree. There’s no ES leech in the game right now (except for a unique belt that turns life overleech into ES), and with the exception of a unique body armor, only physical damage can leech. Given how powerful PoE2 ES is right now, leeching it would basically be invincibility. There’s also no Cast While Channeling, and given the nerfhammer that the Cast When X gems got, I would expect Ice Storm to be pretty much self-cast only. Time will tell, though, I guess.

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Graiaule#7461 wrote:

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Tithonia#4676 wrote:

I think that even if/when WI makes it into PoE2, it and building around it is going to be wildly different unless some things we rely on show up on new classes or a revamped passive tree. There’s no ES leech in the game right now (except for a unique belt that turns life overleech into ES), and with the exception of a unique body armor, only physical damage can leech. Given how powerful PoE2 ES is right now, leeching it would basically be invincibility. There’s also no Cast While Channeling, and given the nerfhammer that the Cast When X gems got, I would expect Ice Storm to be pretty much self-cast only. Time will tell, though, I guess.

Grim Feast = ES leech, more or less

CWC may eventually appear; there are lots of unspecified slots

in the meantime, if you want a similar feel to icestorm in poe2, try a frost mage + reaver minion build.

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gruumine#5054 wrote:

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Graiaule#7461 wrote:

Grim Feast = ES leech, more or less

CWC may eventually appear; there are lots of unspecified slots

in the meantime, if you want a similar feel to icestorm in poe2, try a frost mage + reaver minion build.

Minions is a good build but not similar. Not all good builds gives you similar feel….WI is about face tanking as much as you can. Minions is opposite I.e. face tanking as less as you can due to help of your minions.

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vurun#5473 wrote:

Well, first of all cheers to the creator. Always wanted to try CI build, and was kinda "why not". Really enjoyable.

Need some advice though. Currently running T16 Red+Deli (Toxic+Jungle), my favourite no-brain strat while watching movies. I have enough survivability to facetank almost any mob, but my damage feels mediocre at best, especially on some yellow mobs. Any advice on how to fix this with all my 30 divs left?)

https://pobb.in/sSz3bvAnOTKQ

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Cjin#1011 wrote:

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vurun#5473 wrote:

Well, first of all cheers to the creator. Always wanted to try CI build, and was kinda "why not". Really enjoyable.

Need some advice though. Currently running T16 Red+Deli (Toxic+Jungle), my favourite no-brain strat while watching movies. I have enough survivability to facetank almost any mob, but my damage feels mediocre at best, especially on some yellow mobs. Any advice on how to fix this with all my 30 divs left?)

https://pobb.in/sSz3bvAnOTKQ

This late in the league, the economy and finding items is rough.

That said if your main concern is rare and unique monsters, you have only CwC staff. Get another WI and gem it for self cast. See the first post under Sockets and Links -> Weapon.