[3.22] Gryph's Immortal Cremation - Boss Killer+Simulacrum+Blight Ravaged Farmer

And one final question - there is no difference between lvl 30 and 31 unearth? Only between lvl 30 and 32 ? (corpse lvl goes up? )




Atm I'm a bit confused which combo of these gems i should use in my gloves to make it matter dps wise =( Also. awakened enhance lvl5 would be a dps increase also?

I could achieve lvl 96(?) corpses, if i plug 21_23 unearth and lvl 5 empower, but is it worth it?

If there is no difference between lvl 30 and 31 unearth, guess i should use 21 23 unearth +4 empower, and remove +1 bench for more es?

Any help with unearth gem lvl would be great, I'm a terrible theorycrafter =(((
3.13 Was the best league ever!
3.18 Rest in peace my beloved recombinators, I'm gonna miss you...
Last edited by Anngrat#4621 on Jun 28, 2022, 6:23:35 PM
Appreciate the build! Was able to get 40/40 and finish out the league strong. Here's a video of my build tanking The Feared https://youtu.be/a7xESJL1UMk

3.9 Ball lightning miner https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2722511
3.4 Scorching Ray totems https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2129884
3.4 Champion facebreaker warchief totem https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2240387
I was able to craft the chestpiece to get up near 6k ES



Basically I just slammed 2 vaal regalias that had a crafted es prefix (any crafted prefix works as long as both have the same mod group) and one of the grasping mail mods each. It took me 3 tries and I would say it took about 40ex investment to make this item.

The final gamble is about 44% - (35% chance for 3 prefixes) + (55% chance for 2 prefixes / (4 prefixes in pool choose the 2 grasping mail mods)) = 35% + 9.16 = 44.16%

Setting up the 'cover in ash' base

Cover in ash is a cheap 10-20c mod on grasping mails. If you're lazy just buy them and slam them into i86 vaal regalias until you have one with the mod. You will need to set it up so that this regalia has one prefix on it, or a better than crafted % es mod on it. So I'd recommend just using normal vaal regalias or craft % es on both chest pieces. This step is very inexpensive so do whatever you feel works.


Setting up the 'global defences' base with the best odds

The above strategy requires you to create 2 vaal regalias that only have one prefix, then craft a prefix on that matches before recombining. How do we go about doing this?

The base odds if you have only global defences as a prefix and slam into a white vaal regalia is 33% chance to end up with it on the regalia. (66%chance for 1 mod * 50% to pick the regalia)

If you have other prefixes on the grasping mail this goes down, but if you have a matching prefix on the grasping mail and the regalia such as:

grasping mail
global defences
life

vaal regalia
life

This has 3 prefixes but can only select 2 bumping up the odds that global defences ends up on the regalia to 40% (70% chance to pick 2 or 3 mods + (30% chance to pick 1 mod * 3 choose 1 to pick global defences)) * 50% to choose vaal regalia as the base.

Cover in ash is so cheap that the following strategies to increase your odds of putting it on a vaal regalia are probably not worth doing, but this is how I set up the global defences base:

The basic idea is we want to use the influence blocking property of recombinators to guarantee a mod on the base we want.

If I have an influenced grasping mail (any influence) that has 2 prefixes:

global defences
ANY influenced prefix

and a NORMAL (no mods) i86 regalia

Then when I recombine if the regalia base is selected the recombinator does the following logic:

2 prefixes
33% chance for 2 mod
66% chance for 1 mod

It either picks one or two mods, but then because the regalia isn't influenced the only mod it actually can select is global defences. If the grasping mail is selected then there's a 33% chance that it picks 2 mods (saving the influence mod and the global defences) or 33% chance that it saves global defences. All in all you have a 50 + 33% chance that you don't brick the expensive global defenses and you can try again with the same (or slightly diminished) odds.

But, how do we get a grasping mail that has our target prefix and only one additional influenced prefix?

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One way is to just buy a grasping mail that only has one prefix. But those are typically much more expensive than the cheapest grasping mails that have the grasping mail prefix and 1 one other prefix. Ideally, look for prefixes that have mod groups that match craftable prefixes on the bench such as BaseLocalDefences (flat armor/es/evasion), IncreasedLife (flat life), BaseLocalDefencesAndLife (flat armor/evasion/es + flat life). This helps if your split doesn't go that well. You can find mod groups for grasping mails here on poedb.

Assuming you don't buy a grasping mail with only the global defences prefix, buy one of these:



You can try with 3 prefixes but then you're gambling the chance that your final product has 3 prefixes with the 3rd being useless to you. You will also want 3 suffixes to increase the odds that your split result turns rare.

At this point, you can use a split beast, or if you don't want to do that you can just follow the steps in the case that the split turned the item into a magic grasping mail with global defences and the following regal added a prefix. Splitting gives a chance to get a 1 prefix 2 suffix rare that increases the odds of getting global defences on the regalia to 50%.

What you do is use a split beast so that you have 1 grasping mail that's either rare or magic and has 1 prefix, the global defences. This is why you can't use a 3 prefix grasping mail because you might end up with global defences + another prefix you might or might not want (and it's even worse if that prefix has a mod group that doesn't match a bench mod)

If it rolled 1 prefix 1 suffix, it's a magic item.
Imprint and then regal until you turn it into a two suffix rare. Then craft a 3rd suffix to block and then slam conqueror's orb.


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I dont think you can actually do this step, as you cant imprint split magic items since 3.14, right?

But otherwise great guide, thanks, i'll try it to improve my chest before end of the league...

(Thanks to evilmindcz for pointing this out, a later part of the guide does imprint regal on an item that is no longer split)


At this point you're looking to see if the regal prefix has a mod group that matches a craftable mod. If you regal something like flat mana you can craft mana on the regalia and your two items would be like:

grasping mail
global defences
influence prefix
mana

regalia
crafted mana

Then if the regalia is selected it's a 93% chance to keep global defences and a 70% chance to keep global defences if the grasping mail is selected.

If it doesn't have a mod group that you can bench craft (reflect, %armor/eva/es + stun recovery) - you can blind slam or roll the matching prefix (tier doesn't matter) on the regalia to bump your odds back up.
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If it rolled more than 1 suffix just craft the 3rd suffix if applicable, then slam the conqueror's orb.

Your two items will be:
grasping mail:
global defences
influence prefix
3 suffixes

vaal regalia:
normal regalia no mods

This is a 50/50 to select regalia as the base and if you do it's a 100% chance that it only has global defences on it for a prefix. If grasping mail is selected its a 66% chance that global defences remains on it and you can use it for another recombine attempt.

You'll end up with something like this:


All you have to do is since it's a magic item imprint then regal until it turns into a 2 suffix rare. Then you can use it for the final recombine.

Last edited by ShadeFinale#7921 on Jun 30, 2022, 12:29:42 PM
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Anngrat wrote:

I could achieve lvl 96(?) corpses, if i plug 21_23 unearth and lvl 5 empower, but is it worth it?


I dont think you can, as level of corpses is capped at lvl 95.
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evilmindcz wrote:
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Anngrat wrote:

I could achieve lvl 96(?) corpses, if i plug 21_23 unearth and lvl 5 empower, but is it worth it?


I dont think you can, as level of corpses is capped at lvl 95.


My tooltip says lvl 96 corpses if i get unearth to lvl 32 in my gloves? Also, i found a link to the poe db and it has a table of lvls 1 up to 100? Or am i missing something?
3.13 Was the best league ever!
3.18 Rest in peace my beloved recombinators, I'm gonna miss you...
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Anngrat wrote:
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evilmindcz wrote:
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Anngrat wrote:

I could achieve lvl 96(?) corpses, if i plug 21_23 unearth and lvl 5 empower, but is it worth it?


I dont think you can, as level of corpses is capped at lvl 95.


My tooltip says lvl 96 corpses if i get unearth to lvl 32 in my gloves? Also, i found a link to the poe db and it has a table of lvls 1 up to 100? Or am i missing something?


I might be wrong, as i'm still new to this build :-), but i've read all pages from this thread before i started the build week ago, and i believe max level of corpse was discussed somewhere between pages 30-34, as it supposedly hardcoded in Unearch gem setup. Up to 100 is just for Desecrate.
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evilmindcz wrote:


I might be wrong, as i'm still new to this build :-), but i've read all pages from this thread before i started the build week ago, and i believe max level of corpse was discussed somewhere between pages 30-34, as it supposedly hardcoded in Unearch gem setup. Up to 100 is just for Desecrate.


huh, i only found a guy at page 33 asking the same questions, but no replies to him, mb i'm blind ofc (
3.13 Was the best league ever!
3.18 Rest in peace my beloved recombinators, I'm gonna miss you...
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Anngrat wrote:
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evilmindcz wrote:


I might be wrong, as i'm still new to this build :-), but i've read all pages from this thread before i started the build week ago, and i believe max level of corpse was discussed somewhere between pages 30-34, as it supposedly hardcoded in Unearch gem setup. Up to 100 is just for Desecrate.


huh, i only found a guy at page 33 asking the same questions, but no replies to him, mb i'm blind ofc (


There is no limit to the corpse level beyond what is theoretically possible/corpse level 100.
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ShadeFinale wrote:


What you do is use a split beast so that you have 1 grasping mail that's either rare or magic and has 1 prefix, the global defences. This is why you can't use a 3 prefix grasping mail because you might end up with global defences + another prefix you might or might not want (and it's even worse if that prefix has a mod group that doesn't match a bench mod)

If it rolled 1 prefix 1 suffix, it's a magic item.
Imprint and then regal until you turn it into a two suffix rare. Then craft a 3rd suffix to block and then slam conqueror's orb.



I dont think you can actually do this step, as you cant imprint split magic items since 3.14, right?

But otherwise great guide, thanks, i'll try it to improve my chest before end of the league...
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I dont think you can actually do this step, as you cant imprint split magic items since 3.14, right?

But otherwise great guide, thanks, i'll try it to improve my chest before end of the league...


I missed this initially - I guess in this case you'd have to just blind regal and if you get a 2nd prefix you could decide if you want to conqueror's exalt slam.

If you combine 1 prefix with 0 prefix your odds are only 66% to keep the 1 prefix on either base, and 33% to get it on the vaal regalia - not great.

At this point you're looking to see if the regal prefix has a mod group that matches a craftable mod. If you regal something like flat mana you can craft mana on the regalia and your two items would be like:

grasping mail
global defences
influence prefix
mana

regalia
crafted mana

Then if the regalia is selected it's a 93% chance to keep global defences and a 70% chance to keep global defences if the grasping mail is selected.

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